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Remote work doesn't mean solitude, it means being free to work wherever, and often times whenever, you feel comfortable. It also means less commute, less cars,

Remote work doesn't mean solitude, it means being free to work wherever, and often times whenever, you feel comfortable. It also means less commute, less cars, less pressure on the environment. If friendship/relationship/community is a worry go work in a nearby co-work space or a coffee shop or the park even, it might be a walk or bike ride away.

joelbluminator 8y ago
You're simplifying things. I don't think parks or co-work spaces will cut it for most people. Many software developers are introverts to begin with so meeting new people will become impossible for them in a remote work setting.
- lostctown 8y ago
  Yeah, as someone who is on the extreme end of introverted (not shy, just happy to be alone) this was the case for me. I got a membership to the co-working space, did many of the social events, attended some meetups even, but the connections just wouldn't stick. On the flip side, when I have worked at an office I have always come out after a year or so with a couple close friends in the organization. Because of the physical proximity many of the shared experiences are more intense. Putting out production fires, after work beers, dropping in on a co-worker to talk about the product, etc, lead to longer lasting relationships. Developers have a tendency to assume that technology can solve more of our issues than possible. I have plans to start my own company with a bit more savings and network under my belt, and I will be doing zero remote, assuming I can afford to.
  - joelbluminator 8y ago
    Humans are not robots, we may be some sort of an algorithm but a very complicated one: we need emotional bonding and physical proximity is very important for that.
- dwild 8y ago
  > Many software developers are introverts to begin with so meeting new people will become impossible for them in a remote work setting. Even in work setting it's "impossible" for introverts to meet new people. I'm introvert and I talk to hardly no one at work. How I meet people is by going to a pub where we can play board game. You simply sadly can't passively meet people, you need to want to meet them or else it will be a simple hello started from someone else that will bring to nothing.
  - joelbluminator 8y ago
    I hear you. But a person like you would do even worse in remote work. The little social contact you have will be reduced to almost zero. I'm an introvert myself but I do see a big risk for isolation and depression if I worked remotely.

joelbluminator 8y ago

You're simplifying things. I don't think parks or co-work spaces will cut it for most people. Many software developers are introverts to begin with so meeting new people will become impossible for them in a remote work setting.

lostctown 8y ago
Yeah, as someone who is on the extreme end of introverted (not shy, just happy to be alone) this was the case for me. I got a membership to the co-working space, did many of the social events, attended some meetups even, but the connections just wouldn't stick. On the flip side, when I have worked at an office I have always come out after a year or so with a couple close friends in the organization. Because of the physical proximity many of the shared experiences are more intense. Putting out production fires, after work beers, dropping in on a co-worker to talk about the product, etc, lead to longer lasting relationships. Developers have a tendency to assume that technology can solve more of our issues than possible. I have plans to start my own company with a bit more savings and network under my belt, and I will be doing zero remote, assuming I can afford to.
- joelbluminator 8y ago
  Humans are not robots, we may be some sort of an algorithm but a very complicated one: we need emotional bonding and physical proximity is very important for that.
dwild 8y ago
> Many software developers are introverts to begin with so meeting new people will become impossible for them in a remote work setting. Even in work setting it's "impossible" for introverts to meet new people. I'm introvert and I talk to hardly no one at work. How I meet people is by going to a pub where we can play board game. You simply sadly can't passively meet people, you need to want to meet them or else it will be a simple hello started from someone else that will bring to nothing.
- joelbluminator 8y ago
  I hear you. But a person like you would do even worse in remote work. The little social contact you have will be reduced to almost zero. I'm an introvert myself but I do see a big risk for isolation and depression if I worked remotely.