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See also: * 18F and USDS (USA): https://18f.gsa.gov/ https://18f.gsa.gov/ and https://www.usds.gov/ https://www.usds.gov/ * GSA Technology Transformation Serv

by nhf 8y ago

See also: * 18F and USDS (USA): https://18f.gsa.gov/ https://18f.gsa.gov/ and https://www.usds.gov/ https://www.usds.gov/ * GSA Technology Transformation Service: https://www.gsa.gov/about-us/organization/federal-acquisition-service/technology-transformation-services https://www.gsa.gov/about-us/organization/federal-acquisitio... * US Web Design System: https://v2.designsystem.digital.gov/ https://v2.designsystem.digital.gov/ * Government Digital Service (UK): https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/government-digital-service https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/government-digit... * GOV.UK Design System: https://design-system.service.gov.uk/ https://design-system.service.gov.uk/

petepete 8y ago
The markup is very similar to the GOV.UK's Design System. An excellent starting point in my opinion.
nafey 8y ago
How many design guidelines do we need I wonder. Is the ideal scenario that every UN member comes up with a design system for their govt websites? I feel like this is somewhat wasteful.
- celticninja 8y ago
  And they all look broadly similar
- tehbeard 8y ago
  Wasteful perhaps, but I don't see governments giving up sovereignty over any part of their IT infrastructure, not matter how much anyone yells "slippery slope argument". UN guidelines to ensure said infrastructure is available and accessible to a countries population would make sense though.
- davnicwil 8y ago
  It's probably (hopefully) wasteful in the same way that having multiple browsers, multiple web frameworks, even multiple programming languages is wasteful. Sure, there is duplication of work, redundancy etc. But what you end up with is a much wider surface area to try different things, better things, copy ideas and combine good ideas in different ways. On the contrary, if every country just pools ideas and selects the 'best' via a giant committee selection process, would you really expect that to produce a better result over the longer term? (Genuine question and I'm open to the answer being yes but I personally suspect not).
- Angostura 8y ago
  And we should all switch to Esperanto.
- rchaud 8y ago
  > How many design guidelines do we need I wonder. Given that these are presumably research-based guidelines specific to that government's network of sites, that number would be 1.
BjoernKW 8y ago
It's interesting that apparently it's mainly government services in the Anglosphere that use design systems. An - admittedly cursory - search for non-Anglophone governments that promote the use of a design system only brought up the Swiss federal government: https://swiss.github.io/styleguide/en/ https://swiss.github.io/styleguide/en/ Both Finnish and Estonian authorities are said to be working on a styleguide but apart from a guide on the Estonian part that mainly focuses on Estonia as a brand there doesn't seem to be anything publicly available yet: https://brand.estonia.ee/design/ https://brand.estonia.ee/design/
- a1xndr 8y ago
  The English ones are probably most easily found since design guidelines are usually written in the local language. https://design.gov.ru/design-system/#principles https://design.gov.ru/design-system/#principles
  - BjoernKW 8y ago
    That's certainly a good explanation. Still, for instance I wasn't able to find anything for either the French or the German authorities in their respective local languages. For Dutch government services on the other hand there's the Rijkshuisstijl styleguide: https://www.rijkshuisstijl.nl/ https://www.rijkshuisstijl.nl/ (I just didn't find it at first because I searched for something along the lines of "nederlands overheid" rather than the official term "rijksoverheid").

by nhf 8y ago

petepete 8y ago

The markup is very similar to the GOV.UK's Design System. An excellent starting point in my opinion.

nafey 8y ago

How many design guidelines do we need I wonder. Is the ideal scenario that every UN member comes up with a design system for their govt websites? I feel like this is somewhat wasteful.

celticninja 8y ago
And they all look broadly similar
tehbeard 8y ago
Wasteful perhaps, but I don't see governments giving up sovereignty over any part of their IT infrastructure, not matter how much anyone yells "slippery slope argument". UN guidelines to ensure said infrastructure is available and accessible to a countries population would make sense though.
davnicwil 8y ago
It's probably (hopefully) wasteful in the same way that having multiple browsers, multiple web frameworks, even multiple programming languages is wasteful. Sure, there is duplication of work, redundancy etc. But what you end up with is a much wider surface area to try different things, better things, copy ideas and combine good ideas in different ways. On the contrary, if every country just pools ideas and selects the 'best' via a giant committee selection process, would you really expect that to produce a better result over the longer term? (Genuine question and I'm open to the answer being yes but I personally suspect not).
Angostura 8y ago
And we should all switch to Esperanto.
rchaud 8y ago
> How many design guidelines do we need I wonder. Given that these are presumably research-based guidelines specific to that government's network of sites, that number would be 1.

BjoernKW 8y ago

It's interesting that apparently it's mainly government services in the Anglosphere that use design systems. An - admittedly cursory - search for non-Anglophone governments that promote the use of a design system only brought up the Swiss federal government: https://swiss.github.io/styleguide/en/ https://swiss.github.io/styleguide/en/ Both Finnish and Estonian authorities are said to be working on a styleguide but apart from a guide on the Estonian part that mainly focuses on Estonia as a brand there doesn't seem to be anything publicly available yet: https://brand.estonia.ee/design/ https://brand.estonia.ee/design/

a1xndr 8y ago
The English ones are probably most easily found since design guidelines are usually written in the local language. https://design.gov.ru/design-system/#principles https://design.gov.ru/design-system/#principles
- BjoernKW 8y ago
  That's certainly a good explanation. Still, for instance I wasn't able to find anything for either the French or the German authorities in their respective local languages. For Dutch government services on the other hand there's the Rijkshuisstijl styleguide: https://www.rijkshuisstijl.nl/ https://www.rijkshuisstijl.nl/ (I just didn't find it at first because I searched for something along the lines of "nederlands overheid" rather than the official term "rijksoverheid").