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What is the cook going to retrain in that’s going to substantially change the picture? The only substantial wage gain would be in tech, and retraining to be a

What is the cook going to retrain in that’s going to substantially change the picture? The only substantial wage gain would be in tech, and retraining to be a coder/designer/sales person is not a universal panacea, not everyone can do those.

jelliclesfarm 8y ago
I don’t know. Maybe we should create different categories of work. You are right about technical training. While people like him ought to be responsible wrt procreation and family planning...surely there has to be something from this side of job market too? Maybe restaurants WILL disappear. Like movie theatres and book stores and retail eventually will..in that case, cooking is a skill. Perhaps there has to be a program where they can cook for students or in offices with ten clients. Regulations has to be relaxed. CA food laws and business licenses are too stringent and difficult to navigate. I also want to say that in CA..being reliant on undocumented laborers in the restaurant industry has created an artificial pricing. Food is cheap but rent is high. Labour has become the unmanageable variable while in fact, food was cheap because the savings from hiring cheap labour was passed on to the customer. Or maybe the solution is going to be universal health care and universal basic income. That might be another possibility but whats happening right now isn’t sustainable.
- synaesthesisx 8y ago
  The solution will be automated labor (robotic line cooks, dishwashers, etc), and labor will no longer be an unmanageable variable at this point.
  - jelliclesfarm 8y ago
    True. I see the same thing happening in Ag. I can tell how we will create jobs there tho’..instead of having people spraying toxic chemicals in orchards with masks on..we can have autonomous drones or sprayers but staff can be trained to use the programs and equipment. But here is the rub. Where you needed maybe 30 labourers in the field doing low wage job..now one robot and one operator/supervisor can do it for a single high paying job. So..while certainly that one person has upward mobility..what about the rest of the 29 low skill workers? How are they going to be trained and what will they do? This is something tech sector and the govt has to think about...I don’t think we have spent enough time or effort worrying about it or pursuing it...honestly..it’s not killer AI that scares me..but it’s unemployed..poor low skill people who don’t have means to support themselves in a world where jobs will get scarce is what scares me.

jelliclesfarm 8y ago

I don’t know. Maybe we should create different categories of work. You are right about technical training. While people like him ought to be responsible wrt procreation and family planning...surely there has to be something from this side of job market too? Maybe restaurants WILL disappear. Like movie theatres and book stores and retail eventually will..in that case, cooking is a skill. Perhaps there has to be a program where they can cook for students or in offices with ten clients. Regulations has to be relaxed. CA food laws and business licenses are too stringent and difficult to navigate. I also want to say that in CA..being reliant on undocumented laborers in the restaurant industry has created an artificial pricing. Food is cheap but rent is high. Labour has become the unmanageable variable while in fact, food was cheap because the savings from hiring cheap labour was passed on to the customer. Or maybe the solution is going to be universal health care and universal basic income. That might be another possibility but whats happening right now isn’t sustainable.

synaesthesisx 8y ago
The solution will be automated labor (robotic line cooks, dishwashers, etc), and labor will no longer be an unmanageable variable at this point.
- jelliclesfarm 8y ago
  True. I see the same thing happening in Ag. I can tell how we will create jobs there tho’..instead of having people spraying toxic chemicals in orchards with masks on..we can have autonomous drones or sprayers but staff can be trained to use the programs and equipment. But here is the rub. Where you needed maybe 30 labourers in the field doing low wage job..now one robot and one operator/supervisor can do it for a single high paying job. So..while certainly that one person has upward mobility..what about the rest of the 29 low skill workers? How are they going to be trained and what will they do? This is something tech sector and the govt has to think about...I don’t think we have spent enough time or effort worrying about it or pursuing it...honestly..it’s not killer AI that scares me..but it’s unemployed..poor low skill people who don’t have means to support themselves in a world where jobs will get scarce is what scares me.