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As someone who has been involved in academia and left-wing activism since the 00's, student politics has at least since then been an extremist cesspool, and loo
by tomlock 8y ago
As someone who has been involved in academia and left-wing activism since the 00's, student politics has at least since then been an extremist cesspool, and looking back through history, it seems that plenty of vicious protests and movements seem to arise in universities. Increasingly, fields targeted by the hoax authors are shrinking, particularly since 2008, which seems to indicate they don't have as much influence in universities as the right-wing would enjoy thinking.
- danieltillett 8y agoThese fields do and they don't. The graduates from these areas tend to infect the university administration and wear down the other areas with guerrilla tactics of increasing wokeness. I do agree the students are far smarter than the professors and have been increasingly staying away from these fields. They know a degree in some grievance study is not going to help them pay off their massive student loans.
- tomlock 8y ago> The graduates from these areas tend to infect the university administration and wear down the other areas with guerrilla tactics of increasing wokeness. So you believe that while these departments have shrinking budgets, are the subject of continual staff cuts, and its not possible to use the degrees they give to make any money, that they still have influence over university administrations? Why aren't their tenures and salaries going up, if that's the case?
- whatshisface 8y ago>So you believe that while these departments have shrinking budgets, are the subject of continual staff cuts, and its not possible to use the degrees they give to make any money, that they still have influence over university administrations? Administrators don't enjoy staff and budget cuts, they work to prevent them. That's a big part of their jobs, actually. If anything, the sinking of the (as another commenter called it) "wokeness" ship is driving an even larger fraction of that group of people into administration, as their prospects elsewhere dwindle.
- tomlock 8y agoSo you feel like these people control the university administrations, while their fields drop in importance, funding and staffing?
- danieltillett 8y agoThe people who control the university administration are not academics in these fields, but disproportionally graduates of these fields.
- tomlock 8y agoOk so they simultaneously have an inordinate effect on other disciplines, like science, but can't hold it together enough to keep their own boat afloat?
- danieltillett 8y agoI think you are assuming that the graduates of grevience studies have some sort of loyalty to their old professors. My personal experience is they don't.
- tomlock 8y agoI think you're assuming that your personal experience is representative and unbiased. Is there a particular reason you'd consider yourself an expert on "grievance studies"? Is there a comprehensive list of areas of study you'd consider members? Could we perhaps figure out what level of knowledge you have in those fields, and with the academics within them?
- danieltillett 8y agoI used to be a STEM academic and so dealt a great deal with university administrators and to a lesser extent academics within the grievance fields. Neither I enjoyed. I also used to sit on the university wide committee that allocated PhD scholarships. Part of our job was to try and work out some sort of ranking of candidates between different fields. This wasn’t too hard for most fields, but I can tell you when we got to the grievance field candidates and their proposed projects we would all scratch our heads. In the end we just set aside a faction of the scholarships for these areas and accepted the ranking the departments provided.
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