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In the wake of the 9/11 attacks, airports became completely different places. Young people have no idea what an airport used to be like. They'll never know what
by mhb 8y ago
In the wake of the 9/11 attacks, airports became completely different places. Young people have no idea what an airport used to be like. They'll never know what it's like to travel without having to first submit to a humiliating security check. They'll never know what it was like to say goodbye to your friends and family at the gate, rather than at the front doors of the airport, or to greet them at the gate when they arrived.
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To earn a living groping us, taking body scanner photos of us that can see through our clothes, patting-down our wives and children. The government shutdown is making it hard for the TSA to earn a living detaining us.
They're the victims.
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- apacheCamel 8y agoBut isn't this a problem with the actual TSA and its policies instead of the workers who just follow them? These are still real people who have to rely on their paychecks to live.
- RPLong 8y agoYou surely aren't suggesting that these employees have no say in which job they get, right? I mean, I personally don't have a job that requires me to grope and/or detain people. I personally wouldn't seek such a job. That raises the question: what kind of person would choose that job over any other, especially when government shutdowns and foregone wages are a known risk of employment?
- apacheCamel 8y agoNow I am unsure of what field you are in, but not everybody has the same flexibility in terms of job availability. I agree with you in saying that I would never choose such a job but when it may be one of the few options available, with good pay, how could you say no? If you have a family to provide for, then you need to do it. What if these workers don't agree with the policies and joined the TSA to try and change it for the better? You are talking down to an entire workforce as if they all are actively behind its policies and actions.
- mhb 8y agoYou can see how your argument might elicit a counterargument consistent with Godwin's law, right?
- apacheCamel 8y agoI am not familiar. From a quick search it seems like the longer a discussion happens, the probability increase. Other than just commenting again, I do not see how this relates to the discussion at all.
- mhb 8y agoOK. Can you give some examples of jobs with good pay that you think should be turned down? Even if you have a family to provide for?
- apacheCamel 8y agoI can't think of any job in the US currently that would fall under that category. If you don't like the company, you have every right to quit, but if you do not have mobility like that, then some people just tend to endure it.
- RPLong 8y agoCan we at least agree that "just tend to" is much different from "has no ethical obligation to"?
- apacheCamel 8y agoPeople are allowed to leave a company they do not morally stand beside. I never said they couldn't. I am saying do not blame the people who live paycheck to paycheck and who can't skip a single paycheck to go job hunting for the company's misdeeds. Not everyone has the financial security to disrupt their career.