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why hasn't there been anything like this for iMessage? or any 3rd party applications at all, really.

by coldsauce 8y ago

yzb 8y ago
Is iMessage even a thing outside the US? Everybody in Europe uses WA or Messenger, at least
- wongarsu 8y ago
  The iPhone has about a 56% market share in the US, compared to a 26% market share in Europe (with the UK being the outsider with 52% market share). That makes a huge difference: in Europe it's very unlikely that everyone out of any group of friends has an iPhone, making Whatsapp, Telegram etc the goto solutions for group messages. Apple is also huge in Japan, but I don't know what kind of chat apps are used there.
  - komali2 8y ago
    Line, mostly.
  - madeofpalk 8y ago
    idk, most people I know here in the UK have both iPhones and WhatsApp. Back in Australia, iPhones is fairly pervasive, and so is WhatsApp.
- egze 8y ago
  I‘m from EU and prefer iMessage to anything else.
- azag0 8y ago
  I'm from EU and it is a thing. I use iMessages whenever the other side has an iPhone. In my social circle, it's about two thirds. But it is also true that many people who have an iPhone still use Whatsapp or Messenger as the default communication channel even if the other side has an iPhone as well.
- baroffoos 8y ago
  Its certainly not the default in Australia. Only a few people I know have iPhones. SMS is always the default messaging app unless you have added the person on something else which is a bit of a mess between different services.
benmarten 8y ago
because iMessage is closed api by apple. and they likely will prohibit any interference with their api...
- beagle3 8y ago
  WhatsApp is as closed and guarded (even though better documented through reverse engineering). And this obviously does exist. So that’s not the reason.
  - johannes1234321 8y ago
    This thing here apparently uses WhatsApp web, which might be simpler to use than a full reverse of iMessage and its protocol.
badrabbit 8y ago
A Signal gateway would be nice but an irc gateway to a e2e secure platform might constitute a reduction of security for all involved parties. There are jabber and slack gateways. In practicality,I would like to see a gitter to IRC gateway,because of foss projects usage of both platforms.
- 42wim 8y ago
  Check out matterbridge (https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge) which bridges gitter, irc and much more :-)
  - badrabbit 8y ago
    Neat,thanks.
- metildaa 8y ago
  Signal Weechat does this iirc, there are a few other alternative clients out there too: https://github.com/thefinn93/signal-weechat https://github.com/thefinn93/signal-weechat
arrivance 8y ago
I don't know whether this falls within that, but some people have made iMessage "versions" for Android by using a Mac computer as a bridge. https://github.com/RomanScott/weMessage https://github.com/RomanScott/weMessage
trulyrandom 8y ago
They do exist. Here's one for Discord: https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc
earenndil 8y ago
There was someone who made something like that, but didn't make it public for fear of getting C&D'd by apple.
ComputerGuru 8y ago
I created a native iMessage app for Windows 10: https://neosmart.net/blog/2018/imessage-for-windows/ https://neosmart.net/blog/2018/imessage-for-windows/ Taking full advantage of UWP features and functionality.
- asasas2321323 8y ago
  Where is the app itself?

why hasn't there been anything like this for iMessage? or any 3rd party applications at all, really.

yzb 8y ago

Is iMessage even a thing outside the US? Everybody in Europe uses WA or Messenger, at least

wongarsu 8y ago
The iPhone has about a 56% market share in the US, compared to a 26% market share in Europe (with the UK being the outsider with 52% market share). That makes a huge difference: in Europe it's very unlikely that everyone out of any group of friends has an iPhone, making Whatsapp, Telegram etc the goto solutions for group messages. Apple is also huge in Japan, but I don't know what kind of chat apps are used there.
- komali2 8y ago
  Line, mostly.
- madeofpalk 8y ago
  idk, most people I know here in the UK have both iPhones and WhatsApp. Back in Australia, iPhones is fairly pervasive, and so is WhatsApp.
egze 8y ago
I‘m from EU and prefer iMessage to anything else.
azag0 8y ago
I'm from EU and it is a thing. I use iMessages whenever the other side has an iPhone. In my social circle, it's about two thirds. But it is also true that many people who have an iPhone still use Whatsapp or Messenger as the default communication channel even if the other side has an iPhone as well.
baroffoos 8y ago
Its certainly not the default in Australia. Only a few people I know have iPhones. SMS is always the default messaging app unless you have added the person on something else which is a bit of a mess between different services.

benmarten 8y ago

because iMessage is closed api by apple. and they likely will prohibit any interference with their api...

beagle3 8y ago
WhatsApp is as closed and guarded (even though better documented through reverse engineering). And this obviously does exist. So that’s not the reason.
- johannes1234321 8y ago
  This thing here apparently uses WhatsApp web, which might be simpler to use than a full reverse of iMessage and its protocol.

badrabbit 8y ago

A Signal gateway would be nice but an irc gateway to a e2e secure platform might constitute a reduction of security for all involved parties. There are jabber and slack gateways. In practicality,I would like to see a gitter to IRC gateway,because of foss projects usage of both platforms.

42wim 8y ago
Check out matterbridge (https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge) which bridges gitter, irc and much more :-)
- badrabbit 8y ago
  Neat,thanks.
metildaa 8y ago
Signal Weechat does this iirc, there are a few other alternative clients out there too: https://github.com/thefinn93/signal-weechat https://github.com/thefinn93/signal-weechat

arrivance 8y ago

I don't know whether this falls within that, but some people have made iMessage "versions" for Android by using a Mac computer as a bridge. https://github.com/RomanScott/weMessage https://github.com/RomanScott/weMessage

trulyrandom 8y ago

They do exist. Here's one for Discord: https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc

earenndil 8y ago

There was someone who made something like that, but didn't make it public for fear of getting C&D'd by apple.

ComputerGuru 8y ago

I created a native iMessage app for Windows 10: https://neosmart.net/blog/2018/imessage-for-windows/ https://neosmart.net/blog/2018/imessage-for-windows/ Taking full advantage of UWP features and functionality.

asasas2321323 8y ago
Where is the app itself?