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If you are looking for a big company job, it shouldn't be too hard to get one before moving. The burn rate on living expenses is pretty high out here unless you
by moultano 16y ago
If you are looking for a big company job, it shouldn't be too hard to get one before moving. The burn rate on living expenses is pretty high out here unless you have a valley-sized salary too, so I recommend that. Apply to Google. :) You can always leave for a startup once your short-term finances are secure.
- staunch 16y agoOr just rent a room in an apartment with roommates for $700/mo and don't get a car. Now you can get a job at an exciting startup instead of a 12 year old advertising company with 15,000 programmers.
- moultano 16y ago$700 per month is still exorbitantly expensive relative to most of the country. In Columbus Ohio that gets you a three story house with beautiful wood floors, or a furnished multi-room apartment in downtown Cincinnati. Only in the valley is that kind of expense living frugally, and it's something someone with a student's level of savings ought to take stock of before making the leap.
- pyre 16y agoReally? ~$700/month gets you a two-bedroom apartment in parts of Portland, Oregon, but that seems to be around a minimum. The cheapest thing that I was able to find at one point was ~$500/month for a house-share w/ 7 other people. That's a far cry from what you're talking about in Ohio, and I'm not even in the Valley, and the prices here aren't too far off from prices in Toronto, Ontario. I'll also note that Ohio isn't known for being a prosperous part of the country either. I'm sure you could find cities around the country where the housing prices are similar to SF (though still maybe less).
- moultano 16y agoIn the valley, $700/month doesn't even get you a studio. It gets you half of a 1 bedroom.
- pyre 16y agoThat's true, but trying to illustrate how hyper-expensive prices in The Valley are by comparing them against prices in places that are ultra-low seems disingenuous (to me at least). The post came off like it was implying that in The Valley $700/month is a bare-basement price, while everywhere else in the country it buys you a mansion and several servants.
- moultano 16y agoThe point is that it's probably a lot more expensive than what the poster is used to, and it's worth working somewhere that can give you some financial security for a while until you know the place.
- roel_v 16y ago"$700 per month is still exorbitantly expensive relative to most of the country" I find that hard to believe. Maybe in backwater Georgia. I happen to have some experience with US residents moving temporarily to Europe and they don't even blink at paying local market rate, with some mentioning that it's 'quite cheap compared to home'. Market rate here for a non-luxurious 2-bedroom apartment or semi-detached is 800-1000 USD. (they're not highly paid managers, either, line personnel).
- Retric 16y agoI know a couple with a really nice 3 story house with an attic and full basement that might be worth 50k. Granted most of the housing in the US is in a much better area and is worth more than that, but most of the actual land in the US is poorly located and vary cheap.
- chopsueyar 16y agoWhat if I don't like 'goetta'?
- moultano 16y agoQuestion your humanity. ;)
- loewenskind 16y agoUh, what? In the middle of the Midwest with literally one tech company to work for rent was $500/mo. You're calling $700/mo when you have choices where to work for at a 50%+ higher rate exorbitant? I think you need to step outside your normal boundaries a bit.
- moultano 16y agoIf you're splitting a one-bedroom in the midwest, you can easily do $200 per month, which is what $700 gets you in the valley.
- patrickaljord 16y agoFacebook and twitter are advertising companies too ;)
- dschobel 16y agoBut at Facebook and Twitter the chance to become very wealthy within the next few years is substantially greater than at Google.
- patrickaljord 16y agoSo why do you feel the need to call it an "advertising company"? Or was that a snarky anti-google comment? ;)
- dschobel 16y agoThat wasn't me.
- miked 16y ago> Now you can get a job at an exciting startup instead of a 12 year old advertising company with 15,000 programmers. I assume you're referring to Google.