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My experience of $bigcorp2 is much better than $bigcorp1, and I completely believe it has to do with the second not being a tech company — but instead a traditi

My experience of $bigcorp2 is much better than $bigcorp1, and I completely believe it has to do with the second not being a tech company — but instead a traditional company that moved into tech. So, I think tech companies have a kind of pathological treatment of their workers we don’t see broadly. (You’re also greatly simplifying why working class people are falling behind, to the point of misrepresenting it.)

jungler 8y ago
I would hazard a guess that there is an evolutionary lineage type of thing going on here: SV companies have borrowed both workforces and managerial skills from each from the Fairchild days, and as that became increasingly VC-driven it became almost systematic for newer companies to get extremely large in record time. Doing that puts the company on foundations that are fundamentally weak - there's no legacy to follow, just empty air. Hence the default model became a PT Barnum style hokum story, something that stirs up hearts and minds but will show them the egress once their wallets have been emptied.
amyjess 8y ago
My company takes care of their employees much better than pretty much any other tech company I've ever heard of, and while it _is_ a tech company, I can only conclude that it's for the following reasons: - It was founded and is still headquartered in the suburbs of Dallas and has nothing to do with SF/SV. We technically have a sales office in SF, but that's just a place for our account managers on the West Coast to meet with clients (we also have similar sales offices in NYC, London, and Amsterdam... though I think the London office has been expanded into a real office with a handful of non-sales people regularly present). - We're an enterprise B2B telecom, not some web/social/mobile-driven B2C company. B2B has a number of different cultural mores from B2C, and that's reflected in our internal values. And telecom in general is a whole 'nother ballgame entirely. It's a much more conservative industry than the rest of tech. When I tell random people what kind of company I work at, I usually say "we're kind of an enterprise ISP", which is about as far from SV-typical tech companies as you can imagine (though I stress the kind of, because we're more than just an ISP). Working here doesn't feel like working at a tech company at all. It feels like working for a traditional enterprise, and I like it that way. And that's not just me talking: we regularly win awards on Glassdoor because lots of other people think that way. We also have a TV screen in the office that shows our latest Glassdoor reviews. One day, I noticed a particular line scroll by, and it was interesting enough that I hopped on Glassdoor to ctrl-F for it so I could look at it in its entirety. Here's the Pros section from this person's review: > Good work/life balance. Management has Texas values rather than imposing a Silicon Valley-style groupthink. Growing and profitable. It looks like I'm not the only one who's realized that the reason this company is so good to their employees is because they're not from Silicon Valley.
- dominotw 8y ago
  https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Masergy-RVW21604548.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Masergy-RV... link for the lazy

jungler 8y ago

I would hazard a guess that there is an evolutionary lineage type of thing going on here: SV companies have borrowed both workforces and managerial skills from each from the Fairchild days, and as that became increasingly VC-driven it became almost systematic for newer companies to get extremely large in record time. Doing that puts the company on foundations that are fundamentally weak - there's no legacy to follow, just empty air. Hence the default model became a PT Barnum style hokum story, something that stirs up hearts and minds but will show them the egress once their wallets have been emptied.

amyjess 8y ago

My company takes care of their employees much better than pretty much any other tech company I've ever heard of, and while it _is_ a tech company, I can only conclude that it's for the following reasons: - It was founded and is still headquartered in the suburbs of Dallas and has nothing to do with SF/SV. We technically have a sales office in SF, but that's just a place for our account managers on the West Coast to meet with clients (we also have similar sales offices in NYC, London, and Amsterdam... though I think the London office has been expanded into a real office with a handful of non-sales people regularly present). - We're an enterprise B2B telecom, not some web/social/mobile-driven B2C company. B2B has a number of different cultural mores from B2C, and that's reflected in our internal values. And telecom in general is a whole 'nother ballgame entirely. It's a much more conservative industry than the rest of tech. When I tell random people what kind of company I work at, I usually say "we're kind of an enterprise ISP", which is about as far from SV-typical tech companies as you can imagine (though I stress the kind of, because we're more than just an ISP). Working here doesn't feel like working at a tech company at all. It feels like working for a traditional enterprise, and I like it that way. And that's not just me talking: we regularly win awards on Glassdoor because lots of other people think that way. We also have a TV screen in the office that shows our latest Glassdoor reviews. One day, I noticed a particular line scroll by, and it was interesting enough that I hopped on Glassdoor to ctrl-F for it so I could look at it in its entirety. Here's the Pros section from this person's review: > Good work/life balance. Management has Texas values rather than imposing a Silicon Valley-style groupthink. Growing and profitable. It looks like I'm not the only one who's realized that the reason this company is so good to their employees is because they're not from Silicon Valley.

dominotw 8y ago
https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Masergy-RVW21604548.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Masergy-RV... link for the lazy