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I don't know. As a hobby composer this sounds so wrong. All compositions are restricted more or less. What's missing from Beethoven's 5th? Corny? outdated? What
by vfinn 8y ago
I don't know. As a hobby composer this sounds so wrong. All compositions are restricted more or less. What's missing from Beethoven's 5th? Corny? outdated? What's missing from Vivaldi's pure childlike harmony? Chopin's nocturnes? Bach's complex counterpoint in the Art of Fugue?! Different eras are just... different, but like different flowers, or a glass of water to beer, not one above all else. This might sound corny.
They say Schoenberg pushed tonality to its limits, but to me there's so much ground to be explored harmonically and rhythmically way past Debussy and others, and way past tonality in general. How's abstract not musical? Think of extending Bach's complex counterpoint with AI; think of moving away from discreteness; think of adding technical extensions to every instrument of the orchestra in order to create new possibilities of sound; think of going past the 12 notes. Looking at it this way, Debussy is also very restricted in terms of depth and in terms of notes on and between the lines.
- yesenadam 8y agoSomeone modestly shares with you their musical tastes - To my not-very-well-trained ear - and you tell them what they say 'sounds so wrong'?! I don't think tastes can be 'wrong'. You sound like you think your tastes are reasonable and no-one else's are.
- explainplease 8y agoUnlike yours, his comment was interesting. You even didn't understand his comment, as he said eras are different and not better than one another, which is what you're saying. Relax and don't be the you-sound-like police.
- yesenadam 8y agoDon't be snarky. It seems you assumed I'm the person he was replying to - I said nothing close to or even in the ballpark of 'eras are better than one another'. Every sentence of your comment was unacceptably condescending. Don't tell people on here to "relax". Or that their comments aren't interesting - just don't reply if that's the case. Thanks.
- explainplease 8y agoPlease respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. > It seems you assumed I'm the person he was replying to What are you talking about? He couldn't have been replying to you, because your comments were not in the ancestry of his. > I said nothing close to or even in the ballpark of 'eras are better than one another' You derived from my comment meaning opposite from what was plainly written?! Read more carefully. > Every sentence of your comment was unacceptably condescending Every sentence of yours to him was unacceptably rude. > Don't tell people on here to "relax". Or that their comments aren't interesting - just don't reply if that's the case. Thanks. Don't tell people on here that they sound like they think they're the only reasonable one. Just don't reply if that's the case. Thanks.
- explainplease 8y agoDon't be a fucking coward, downvoting and flagging when you're called out on your bullshit and can't answer for it. Shameful.
- vfinn 8y agoHmm, it did occur to me that that phrasing could sound harsh to someone, but I didn't mean to belittle his/her opinion. Sorry about that. I tend to talk quite bluntly (as a Finn).
- yesenadam 8y agoOk thanks, Hi from Australia. Then you didn't mind my bluntness. :-) So.. Do you have a favourite piece, or.. top 3? top 5?
- vfinn 8y agoHello. That's an impossible task for me, so I've given up on trying to do that. I can however give you 3 of my latest favorites: 1) Bach - Passacaglia & Fugue In C Minor - BWV 582 by Karl Richter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W4PJUOeVYw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W4PJUOeVYw 2) Vivaldi - Stabat Mater https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGwvKU4_vaw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGwvKU4_vaw 3) Bach - Piano Concerto in D Min. BWV 1052 by Polina Osetinskaya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osg_WmeLxQk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osg_WmeLxQk
- ternaryoperator 8y agoI find Osetinskaya plays so fast that it's difficult to make out the counterpoint. Have a look/listen at Glenn Gould's version, which makes the counterpoint really clear [1]. As you might know, this interpretation was controversial at the time. [1] https://youtu.be/9ZX_XCYokQo?t=307 https://youtu.be/9ZX_XCYokQo?t=307
- vfinn 8y agoI know Gould (of course) and the piece, he's awesome. Still, I found Osetinskaya's play very precise, delightful, and full of emotion. I did not have any trouble with the speed. One day I prefer Gould, the other this one. It's just like that. Funny side note: Do you know Gould's So You Want to Write a Fugue? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHW1I8T0caI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHW1I8T0caI