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It is a big problem with Patreon as it is with almost all major tech platforms - especially those who have dominant positions without any current viable competi
by porpoisely 8y ago
It is a big problem with Patreon as it is with almost all major tech platforms - especially those who have dominant positions without any current viable competition. I can understand shutting down accounts involved in criminal activity but blocking transactions because you disagree with their political views or speech is ridiculous.
The hubris of the tech leaders are a cause for concern. Who voted for them to be our puritanical leaders and tyrants? Do we really want Tim Cook, Zuckerburg, Page/Brin, Conte, etc to be our moral censors? Do we really want them to be the American Politburo to rule over us? I certainly don't. What's even more incredible is that the co-founder of Patreon is a musician by trade. You would think he, of all people, would be against censorship.
- quadrangle 8y agoA musician, of all people, against censorship? I don't follow. Leaving aside the false-dichotomy implication about all-or-nothing / black-or-white / for-censorship-or-against-it, there's nothing about being a musician that would particularly predict someone's political views.
- porpoisely 8y agoOther than the fact that musicians and music have been victims of censorship? Other than the fact that musicians had to overcome attempts to censor music? Whether it is ragtime or rock 'n roll or gangsta rap or even classical like mahler. You would think a profession that depends on free speech protection would be more sympathetic to free speech. Also, in many instances, you can predict someone's political views with some accuracy just by their profession.
- XorNot 8y agoOther then the fact that musicians have been bullied and harassed for almost every facet of their identity in some form by right-wing movements for most of the 20th century? Literally everything you're saying should make them sympathetic to free speech was perpetrated, in the west, by the right-wing. So go figure: they don't like them.
- porpoisely 8y agoJust the "right wing" movements? The "left wing" movements have censored plenty in the 20th century. Go ask anyone who lived in communist china or the soviet union. It's not a matter of liking "right-wing" or "left-wing". Both are capable of oppression and horrific behavior. That's why I believe in principles like free speech. So that horrible people from both the left and the right can't silence people. I can't understand people like you. The right wing are terrible because they censored people. So lets be like the right wing and censor?