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I might just be a "nerd" on hacker news but I'm also the guy who just made the decision on which cloud service, email provider, and document sharing service to

I might just be a "nerd" on hacker news but I'm also the guy who just made the decision on which cloud service, email provider, and document sharing service to use at my job. Guess which company didn't get the contract.

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burgerboy 8y ago
Oh no a few small fish lost
praneshp 8y ago
If you're making those decisions because you're bitter over Google Reader, I think Google's not the one that's hurting.....
guggle 8y ago
I can relate. This extends to any technology they offer. Like Go... interesting on paper, but I just won't invest my personal time in it.
- ViViDboarder 8y ago
  For me, Go Go is a bit different as it’s open source with a strong community. I don’t see it going anywhere.
jhall1468 8y ago
And none of those services are going anywhere. If you're given the responsibility to make those types of decisions, I have my doubts that you based it on whether an audio dongle or RSS feed reader were dumped.
- spurgu 8y ago
  I went through a similar process the other day with a startup. We did pick GSuite at the end but the questionable decisions made by Google in the last 1-2 years made me want to look into alternatives instead of just choosing the one which would've been a no-brainer choice in the past.
  - jhall1468 8y ago
    They were only questionable because people that used them were pissed off. But Google isn't going to trash a product that's really hitting home. Gmail is the most successful email app ever. Google Reader was a niche product in a niche market.
prepend 8y ago
This is exactly the risk that Google doesn’t seem to effectively mitigate. Choosing GCP over Azure or AWS seems like such a dangerous move. Same with migrating 5k users to gmail. Outlook and others may have weaknesses, but they are predictable.
- duality 8y ago
  The fear is that Google might turn Gmail down? Seems implausible, no?
  - JumpCrisscross 8y ago
    > Seems implausible, no? Not really. All it would take would be liability for privacy violations.
    - tylerl 8y ago
      These products have Enterprise customers with long term contracts. Same as core GCP services. They can't be turned down for any reason. End of story.
  - ams6110 8y ago
    Gmail, Docs, Drive seem pretty safe bets. Would not put my money on anything else though.
    - vnorilo 8y ago
      I'm pretty sure the ads will keep working :P
    - prepend 8y ago
      Fine for individuals. But switching a huge org with tons of weird, internal processes and rules seems like a gamble that meeting those requirements will always be important for Gmail (ie, using ie11 for some dumb reason). I agree with you on drive, but docs is missing lots of features compared to msoffice (macros, excel functions, offline storage and runs) and google hasn’t been building tons of stuff into docs for a while. I think they are fine for small orgs, but big orgs pay for lots of support and customization.
dehrmann 8y ago
I share your feelings about not wanting to commit to Google products, but some (like Gmail) are here to stay. I'd work more about getting support for Gmail than Google closing it.
eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago
Yep, I’ve also completely avoided Google Cloud for this very reason. Google really is not seeing the bigger picture here at all.
ehsankia 8y ago
You just compared a 35$ audio dongle, which is pretty redundant when you can instead of the other 35$ dongle that does the same and more, to a billion dollar cloud business.
NoPicklez 8y ago
Not saying you are wrong, but I don't think you would be getting some of the largest companies in the world globally using the Google platform if there was a risk to its future.

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burgerboy 8y ago

Oh no a few small fish lost

praneshp 8y ago

If you're making those decisions because you're bitter over Google Reader, I think Google's not the one that's hurting.....

guggle 8y ago

I can relate. This extends to any technology they offer. Like Go... interesting on paper, but I just won't invest my personal time in it.

ViViDboarder 8y ago
For me, Go Go is a bit different as it’s open source with a strong community. I don’t see it going anywhere.

jhall1468 8y ago

And none of those services are going anywhere. If you're given the responsibility to make those types of decisions, I have my doubts that you based it on whether an audio dongle or RSS feed reader were dumped.

spurgu 8y ago
I went through a similar process the other day with a startup. We did pick GSuite at the end but the questionable decisions made by Google in the last 1-2 years made me want to look into alternatives instead of just choosing the one which would've been a no-brainer choice in the past.
- jhall1468 8y ago
  They were only questionable because people that used them were pissed off. But Google isn't going to trash a product that's really hitting home. Gmail is the most successful email app ever. Google Reader was a niche product in a niche market.

prepend 8y ago

This is exactly the risk that Google doesn’t seem to effectively mitigate. Choosing GCP over Azure or AWS seems like such a dangerous move. Same with migrating 5k users to gmail. Outlook and others may have weaknesses, but they are predictable.

duality 8y ago
The fear is that Google might turn Gmail down? Seems implausible, no?
- JumpCrisscross 8y ago
  > Seems implausible, no? Not really. All it would take would be liability for privacy violations.
  - tylerl 8y ago
    These products have Enterprise customers with long term contracts. Same as core GCP services. They can't be turned down for any reason. End of story.
- ams6110 8y ago
  Gmail, Docs, Drive seem pretty safe bets. Would not put my money on anything else though.
  - vnorilo 8y ago
    I'm pretty sure the ads will keep working :P
  - prepend 8y ago
    Fine for individuals. But switching a huge org with tons of weird, internal processes and rules seems like a gamble that meeting those requirements will always be important for Gmail (ie, using ie11 for some dumb reason). I agree with you on drive, but docs is missing lots of features compared to msoffice (macros, excel functions, offline storage and runs) and google hasn’t been building tons of stuff into docs for a while. I think they are fine for small orgs, but big orgs pay for lots of support and customization.

dehrmann 8y ago

I share your feelings about not wanting to commit to Google products, but some (like Gmail) are here to stay. I'd work more about getting support for Gmail than Google closing it.

eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago

Yep, I’ve also completely avoided Google Cloud for this very reason. Google really is not seeing the bigger picture here at all.

ehsankia 8y ago

You just compared a 35$ audio dongle, which is pretty redundant when you can instead of the other 35$ dongle that does the same and more, to a billion dollar cloud business.

NoPicklez 8y ago

Not saying you are wrong, but I don't think you would be getting some of the largest companies in the world globally using the Google platform if there was a risk to its future.