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I haven't had to manage a site at that traffic level before, but is there really a use case where you're immediately going from no managed hosting to needing $1

I haven't had to manage a site at that traffic level before, but is there really a use case where you're immediately going from no managed hosting to needing $1500/month in managed hosting? I don't doubt these are the resources necessary for a 1M user site and I don't even doubt that that's a good deal for not having to manage a site of such scale, but how many people are $1500/month ready to test an idea?

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- onewland 16y ago
  Since you're a Heroku employee (sayeth the HN profile), I assume this is a Socratic-method type question. I don't really care to research it, though, so perhaps you would like to elaborate?
  - ryandotsmith 16y ago
    (I am not speaking on behalf heroku) I am not really sure why New Relic is so expensive. Sorry for being coy with my question.
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blutonium 16y ago
Ad agencies are a good example. They put together a cheesy game as part of a campaign, and need to hit the ground running. Relative to development, creative, and everything else that goes into a campaign, $1,500/mo is a steal.
- theli0nheart 16y ago
  I work at one, and you'd have to make a really good case to a client to factor in $1,500 / month in hosting costs. Even though it's a small sum compared to total campaign spend, big companies are more into the "wow" factor than anything else. Thus they're more willing to pay for cool designs than that boring hosting stuff. Also, support is extremely important for these big campaigns. Companies want someone to call if things go awry. If Heroku goes down, you're kinda screwed. All we can tell the client is "sorry, Heroku's down. we can't do anything about that." That's something you want to avoid.
tomfakes 16y ago
Over the last 2 years, I've built a number of Facebook apps. For the ones that go big, they go big fast! When we started out our business in 2008, we needed to double our capacity every week for 6 weeks. I spent a lot of time adding servers and moving providers as our old one couldn't move fast enough.

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onewland 16y ago
Since you're a Heroku employee (sayeth the HN profile), I assume this is a Socratic-method type question. I don't really care to research it, though, so perhaps you would like to elaborate?
- ryandotsmith 16y ago
  (I am not speaking on behalf heroku) I am not really sure why New Relic is so expensive. Sorry for being coy with my question.

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blutonium 16y ago

Ad agencies are a good example. They put together a cheesy game as part of a campaign, and need to hit the ground running. Relative to development, creative, and everything else that goes into a campaign, $1,500/mo is a steal.

theli0nheart 16y ago
I work at one, and you'd have to make a really good case to a client to factor in $1,500 / month in hosting costs. Even though it's a small sum compared to total campaign spend, big companies are more into the "wow" factor than anything else. Thus they're more willing to pay for cool designs than that boring hosting stuff. Also, support is extremely important for these big campaigns. Companies want someone to call if things go awry. If Heroku goes down, you're kinda screwed. All we can tell the client is "sorry, Heroku's down. we can't do anything about that." That's something you want to avoid.

tomfakes 16y ago

Over the last 2 years, I've built a number of Facebook apps. For the ones that go big, they go big fast! When we started out our business in 2008, we needed to double our capacity every week for 6 weeks. I spent a lot of time adding servers and moving providers as our old one couldn't move fast enough.