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Refined sugar seriously isn't poison. Please, I mean that sincerely, stop obsessing over extreme views of diet and nutrition. It is likely not good for your men

Refined sugar seriously isn't poison. Please, I mean that sincerely, stop obsessing over extreme views of diet and nutrition. It is likely not good for your mental health. It is well established in mainstream nutrition the health effects of high calorie diets. It is also well established that refined sugar is not magically so much worse than any other way to eat a high calorie diet. Obviously, no one thinks drinking soda(or eating pizza etc) all day is good for you. And drinking soda is well agreed to be an easy way to significantly increase to caloric intake. The difference we tend to be able to measure is based upon behavioral nutrition. Not the actual direct consumption. Seriously, I'm not sure why you, and others, feel compelled to yell to the hills about the secret poisons of sugar. I realize that it is difficult to see who is on the other side of these forums and it is possible that you may have a diagnosed mental health issue that causes you to obsess over something like this. If so I apologize. But if not, please think about why you are so adamant and upset about something like refined sugar. Is anyone aware of any studies out there about people who obsess about nutrition information? Is it possible that people that get so wrapped up in this are suffering from similar issues in the brain that cause eating disorders? I always find if fascinating that diet and nutrition discussions on HN seem to be a topic that brings out many very impassioned comments like the one I'm replying to. What is it about diet and nutrition specifically that causes it to inspire such extreme views and excitement?

airstrike 8y ago
First of all, your comment is extremely rude. Why do you discount people's opinion as mental health issues? Please consider revising your tone, not only on HN but elsewhere in life, if I may so bluntly say. To cite one example why people are passionate about the topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Association https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Association > The difference we tend to be able to measure is based upon behavioral nutrition. Not the actual direct consumption. Can you provide a source?
- kokokokoko 8y ago
  We know that things like refined sugar cause dopamine spikes that cause people to crave them and consume more. We also know that sugary drinks like soda allow people to consume a large amount of calories quickly. Those are well established and studied behaviors. What we also know, is that consuming refined sugar as opposed to any other source of calories is not very different outside of lack of nutrition etc. This is long established fact in both human and animal studies for many decades. Which means if there is a difference, it is likely not very pronounced. To willfully ignore hard scientific fact to a point where a person needs to adamantly declare that sugar is akin to alcohol in the damage it does to the body, is a sign of something out of the norm in a person. The second half of my comment was to see if there were studies about people who have this behavior as I find it interesting. This is one of the topics on HN which seem to get comments with extreme views and I was simply asking if people had research on this type of obsession. What is it specifically about diet and nutrition that causes such a visceral, irrational, reaction out of a small subset of people? I am genuinely curious.
  - tracker1 8y ago
    https://www.dietdoctor.com/fructose-fatty-liver-sugar-toxin https://www.dietdoctor.com/fructose-fatty-liver-sugar-toxin https://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/diabetes https://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/diabetes Note: refined sugars are about half fructose. The liver is the only organ that can metabolize it... With refined sugars your getting a significant multiplier of what you would in nature. This turns into triglycerides which is heavily correlated to insulin resistance and diabetes.
jesssse 8y ago
Bitter people dislike sugar.
quantum_magpie 8y ago
>It is well established in mainstream nutrition the health effects of high calorie diets. Health effects.. like heart disease, obesity, and diabetes?

airstrike 8y ago

First of all, your comment is extremely rude. Why do you discount people's opinion as mental health issues? Please consider revising your tone, not only on HN but elsewhere in life, if I may so bluntly say. To cite one example why people are passionate about the topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Association https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Association > The difference we tend to be able to measure is based upon behavioral nutrition. Not the actual direct consumption. Can you provide a source?

kokokokoko 8y ago
We know that things like refined sugar cause dopamine spikes that cause people to crave them and consume more. We also know that sugary drinks like soda allow people to consume a large amount of calories quickly. Those are well established and studied behaviors. What we also know, is that consuming refined sugar as opposed to any other source of calories is not very different outside of lack of nutrition etc. This is long established fact in both human and animal studies for many decades. Which means if there is a difference, it is likely not very pronounced. To willfully ignore hard scientific fact to a point where a person needs to adamantly declare that sugar is akin to alcohol in the damage it does to the body, is a sign of something out of the norm in a person. The second half of my comment was to see if there were studies about people who have this behavior as I find it interesting. This is one of the topics on HN which seem to get comments with extreme views and I was simply asking if people had research on this type of obsession. What is it specifically about diet and nutrition that causes such a visceral, irrational, reaction out of a small subset of people? I am genuinely curious.
- tracker1 8y ago
  https://www.dietdoctor.com/fructose-fatty-liver-sugar-toxin https://www.dietdoctor.com/fructose-fatty-liver-sugar-toxin https://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/diabetes https://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/diabetes Note: refined sugars are about half fructose. The liver is the only organ that can metabolize it... With refined sugars your getting a significant multiplier of what you would in nature. This turns into triglycerides which is heavily correlated to insulin resistance and diabetes.

jesssse 8y ago

Bitter people dislike sugar.

quantum_magpie 8y ago

>It is well established in mainstream nutrition the health effects of high calorie diets. Health effects.. like heart disease, obesity, and diabetes?