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That was a time where America was rapidly urbanizing, where the populations of NYC, Chicago were increasing by like 30% a decade. The cities of the south really
by gimmeThaBeet 8y ago
That was a time where America was rapidly urbanizing, where the populations of NYC, Chicago were increasing by like 30% a decade. The cities of the south really came into their own at this point, think Atlana. LA tripled in population from 1900 to 1910, and nearly doubled again from 1910 to 1920.
We had absolutely massive demographic shifts over the initial decades of the 20th century, and you're seriously going to pick income tax as the culprit of crime rising? Compared to 1900, 1920s America had a much different identity.
- User23 8y agoMy point wasn't to prove that income tax causes murders, it was to disprove that income tax prevents them.
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- arcticbull 8y agoYou didn't prove or disprove anything because correlation does not imply causation. Unless you have a study to show that people are murdering each other specifically because of income tax it could have been due to literally anything else. For instance, the divorce rate in Maine in perfectly correlated to per capita consumption of margarine, but one doesn't cause the other (http://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations http://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations) -- or, for instance, the Dick Act was passed just a few years before WWI but it certainly didn't cause that either.
- entee 8y agoMy favorite is that umbrella usage is highly correlated to rain.
- james_s_tayler 8y agoMy favorite is that trolling is highly correlated to the internet.
- User23 8y agoSince correlation is a consequence of causation, the absence of correlation suffices to disprove claims of causation.
- arcticbull 8y agoI think it’s fair to say that what you spend that income tax on is vastly more relevant. Yes, I agree, the very act of taxing people and then spending it on, say, NASA (or burning it) doesn’t change the gun murder rate but nobody’s every made that assertion. The assertion is you can spend it on evidence based programs like gun control to reduce the murder rate — and there’s plenty of evidence in other countries that it works. The lack of correlation you spoke of isn’t relevant to the topic per se because the taxation act is a means to solutions, not a solution.
- tomatotomato37 8y agoI wasn't going to respond to your parent as it was a blatant shitpost, but since there is a legitimate post here I got to say that I am actually curious what caused the quadrupled murder rate in just two years (1905-1907). There were no significant organized crime or changes in homicide reporting I could find, and the closest disturbance I could find seemed to be the Black Patch Tobacco Wars happening in Tennessee and Kentucky. Wish we had more historians hanging around here
- boomboomsubban 8y agoIt seems that the number if states reporting their data changed during those years, only ten until 1905, and I'd bet that's the cause. http://jessnevins.com/blog/?p=89 http://jessnevins.com/blog/?p=89
- scottlocklin 8y agoAlmost certainly the way it was recorded.