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I really don't like arguments that lose nuance. I appreciate you bringing and pointing out some here. The study most people quote has a huge variation in CO2
by bargl 8y ago
I really don't like arguments that lose nuance. I appreciate you bringing and pointing out some here.
The study most people quote has a huge variation in CO2 based on farming practices. It also doesn't compare eating seasonally appropriate foods vs out of season foods. I think it's an over simplification of a problem to push an agenda.
Edit: I was trying to hold it in, but I couldn't so here's the rant.
For that matter, we really need to pull out our CO2 calculators and add up kids, dogs, cars, insulation, houses, etc. Let's see what your CO2 budget can be.
I get that we need to work toward reducing CO2 footprint, but how many of us are willing to tell others they should cut the way WE want them to cut rather than giving them options. The Vegan agenda is 2 fold. If you eat meat, your bad for eating animals and now for not believing in global warming enough.
No, I believe in global warming, I just prefer to take a bus and try to eat humanely grown meat that has a lower impact. But that's me, and if you go vegan and decide you don't want to ride the bus, that's ok. Do what you can.
- uxcolumbo 8y agoWhat is your definition of humanely grown meat? And secondly how do you ensure it meets your criteria and where do you get it?
- bargl 8y agoGood question. http://lostinecattlecompany.com/lostine-beef/our-philosophy/ http://lostinecattlecompany.com/lostine-beef/our-philosophy/ Find a bunch of people and get a half cow. No not all my meat comes from here, but this is what I look for when I can.
- uxcolumbo 8y agoThanks - had a look at their page. I find it a bit strange that they use the word 'harvested'. They mention it's stress free. Why not just use the actual words, like killing and slaughtering. Are they afraid it's going to turn people off? Animals can feel when they are about to die and this alone creates stress - so this whole process is certainly not stress free. I don't think you can kill a living being (e.g. cows or pigs) that doesn't want to be killed - in a humane way. We have to face the fact that our demand for meat creates animal suffering and when it comes to factory farming also environmental destruction and poor working conditions for other humans. We then have to ask ourselves why are we eating meat - for survival or for pleasure? In modern socities it's mostly for pleasure - which then becomes a moral question, i.e. does my demand for meat justify all the things mentioned above? Also, when you look up the definition of 'humane' it includes the words 'compassion' and 'act of kindness'. Mixing those words with killing and slaughtering (when it's not necessary for ones survival) somehow doesn't go well together. But making an effort to only purchase meat from those farms you mentioned is still better than purchasing meat that comes from factory farms.