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She should sue Google. Serious response. This kind of thing is bullshit, and she has a legal right to have the number ported, especially if she’s been willing t

by CPLX 8y ago

She should sue Google. Serious response. This kind of thing is bullshit, and she has a legal right to have the number ported, especially if she’s been willing to pay the bill and has not been able to due to Google’s technical problems. File a lawsuit for the value of the time she’s had to spend on it and an order to show cause or temporary restraining order type motion for them to release the number to her. It’s too bad the legal system is so intimidating to people because more people doing this might one day wake companies up a little. Needless to say this doesn’t contradict the advice to not use the service in the first place.

hojjat12000 8y ago
I have no idea what you just said. To understand that I need to see a lawyer, pay hundreds of dollars to be told what my right is, and how I can proceed. Then probably invest thousands of dollars in a lawsuit. At least that's how I see it. Unless there is an app that you click a button and you sue Google for free that I don't know about.
- tracker1 8y ago
  Any money spend on the lawsuit itself can be recovered as part of said lawsuit. Also, Google will probably wind up paying more just for their legal team than you will AND have to pay in the end... if more people did this, they'd be much more likely to improve quality of service. LOTS of paper cuts.
- CPLX 8y ago
  I mean, you could look up those things and read a few blog posts and then do them. I’m not a lawyer either it’s not that complicated. You have to do a little research to figure out how to use the subway system or buy a car too. It’s just another system, isn’t this a board full of people who’ve taught themselves how to handle extraordinarily complex rules based systems? There’s something about legal stuff that makes people freeze up. Go to the courthouse, ask them, sign up for whatever volunteer lawyer help desk program they have (they almost always do) and figure it out. Takes an afternoon or two. Use Google. Harness the enemy’s powers against them.
- tedivm 8y ago
  That's not how it works, at all. Taking someone to small claims court (which is what this would fall under) is trivial compared to what you're saying. Many county court systems even provide checklists to get through it. Last time I took someone to small claims court it cost about $200 in fees.
monksy 8y ago
> It’s too bad the legal system is so intimidating to people because more people doing this might one day wake companies up a little. That was Peter Thiel's conclusion after the Gawker ordeal. The reason why Gawker did what it did was that it was very difficult to succeed at suing them, and to survive while doing so. (Gawker would put the person suing them on an attack)
- CPLX 8y ago
  That scenario is literally the exact opposite scenario described here, where an incredibly wealthy and powerful business titan successfully intimidated and destroyed a much smaller and more poorly funded source of journalism because he felt like it. That, conceptually, is exactly the opposite of using small claims court to get justice from a giant faceless corporation. People like Peter Thiel have literally never been intimidated by the legal system. They have the resources to exploit and manipulate the legal system, and then lobby to get the laws changed if it doesn't work out for them the regular way.
  - monksy 8y ago
    > funded source of journalism because he felt like it. "motivated to sue Gawker after they published a 2007 article publicly outing him, headlined "Peter Thiel is totally gay, people". Thiel stated that Gawker articles about others, including his friends, had "ruined people's lives for no reason," " They publically outed him. They've gone after people who had tried to sue them before. Read the book Conspiracy. (0783118457)
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hojjat12000 8y ago

I have no idea what you just said. To understand that I need to see a lawyer, pay hundreds of dollars to be told what my right is, and how I can proceed. Then probably invest thousands of dollars in a lawsuit. At least that's how I see it. Unless there is an app that you click a button and you sue Google for free that I don't know about.

tracker1 8y ago
Any money spend on the lawsuit itself can be recovered as part of said lawsuit. Also, Google will probably wind up paying more just for their legal team than you will AND have to pay in the end... if more people did this, they'd be much more likely to improve quality of service. LOTS of paper cuts.
CPLX 8y ago
I mean, you could look up those things and read a few blog posts and then do them. I’m not a lawyer either it’s not that complicated. You have to do a little research to figure out how to use the subway system or buy a car too. It’s just another system, isn’t this a board full of people who’ve taught themselves how to handle extraordinarily complex rules based systems? There’s something about legal stuff that makes people freeze up. Go to the courthouse, ask them, sign up for whatever volunteer lawyer help desk program they have (they almost always do) and figure it out. Takes an afternoon or two. Use Google. Harness the enemy’s powers against them.
tedivm 8y ago
That's not how it works, at all. Taking someone to small claims court (which is what this would fall under) is trivial compared to what you're saying. Many county court systems even provide checklists to get through it. Last time I took someone to small claims court it cost about $200 in fees.

monksy 8y ago

> It’s too bad the legal system is so intimidating to people because more people doing this might one day wake companies up a little. That was Peter Thiel's conclusion after the Gawker ordeal. The reason why Gawker did what it did was that it was very difficult to succeed at suing them, and to survive while doing so. (Gawker would put the person suing them on an attack)

CPLX 8y ago
That scenario is literally the exact opposite scenario described here, where an incredibly wealthy and powerful business titan successfully intimidated and destroyed a much smaller and more poorly funded source of journalism because he felt like it. That, conceptually, is exactly the opposite of using small claims court to get justice from a giant faceless corporation. People like Peter Thiel have literally never been intimidated by the legal system. They have the resources to exploit and manipulate the legal system, and then lobby to get the laws changed if it doesn't work out for them the regular way.
- monksy 8y ago
  > funded source of journalism because he felt like it. "motivated to sue Gawker after they published a 2007 article publicly outing him, headlined "Peter Thiel is totally gay, people". Thiel stated that Gawker articles about others, including his friends, had "ruined people's lives for no reason," " They publically outed him. They've gone after people who had tried to sue them before. Read the book Conspiracy. (0783118457)

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