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Say what you want about Google, its one of the few companies with a moral compass.
by hcnews 8y ago
Say what you want about Google, its one of the few companies with a moral compass.
- forgottenpass 8y agoDragonfly.
- hcnews 8y agoDragonfly is a complex topic. The good part about it is that Google is still having a conversation about it and hasn't launched the product once it was publicly known. Note that I was born in India and have different views than American citizens due to having first hand experience with what information can do to transform lives.
- jonny_eh 8y agoWhat's your point?
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- izacus 8y agoGoogle employees risked their jobs to protest against Dragonfly.
- x220 8y agopeople with perhaps the highest demand for their labor than any other professionals risked their cushy jobs to influence their company to not be complicit in the censorship of over a billion people with a regime that has committed genocide? that's superhuman dedication right there, good job Google superheroes
- kevinh 8y agoThere are other tech companies doing related work in China. Are you saying that the employees of those companies are all complicit with genocidal actions?
- x220 8y agoAssisting a regime (which has committed genocide) with censorship isn't the same as assisting genocide. That should be clear from reading my comment.
- skybrian 8y agoSomeone risked their job to leak it to the press. The average Google employee joining a protest isn't risking anything since Google has a tradition of internal debate.
- lern_too_spel 8y agoEnded before it even launched. https://theintercept.com/2018/12/17/google-china-censored-search-engine-2/ https://theintercept.com/2018/12/17/google-china-censored-se... Compare to Apple, which actually handed over the iCloud keys of all its Chinese customers to the Chinese government. We should continue to pressure Google to make fewer mistakes like these, but let's not pretend they're in the same league as truly bad actors like Apple and Facebook when it comes to privacy.
- mtgx 8y agoI think it's this case it was more of a case that they didn't stand to make money themselves from T-mobile and Sprint selling that data to others, since it's not something they could control.
- RHSeeger 8y agoTrue. Unfortunately, it tends to be pointed towards Evil much of the time.
- SquareWheel 8y agoWhy, because they show you ads for tracked interests? Something they're quite upfront about, and allow you to opt-out of if you'd like. Is that so "evil" that it somehow outweighs the hundreds of open-source projects they've released? Or the extremely useful free-services they provide like Maps and Search? The thousands of jobs they've created in our industry? The new protocols they've released for free to the IETF? The security bugs they've helped uncover? Google does an immense amount of good for society. I don't understand how people can so easily lose sight of that.
- RHSeeger 8y agoActually, I don't have a large problem with them showing ads and trying to know enough about me to do so properly. I'd appreciate it if you didn't attack me over your mistaken ideas regarding my thoughts. - They release good versions of existing products, let people use it for free or cheap, and then (when all the other companies making said product type give up because they can't compete), they discard the product and leave people without any version of it. - They forced a horrible social platform on everyone. I don't have a problem with them creating the platform; experimentation and variety are good. I do, however, have a problem with them forcing people to use it in order to use other products they own. - There's other items in my list of reasons to think Google is out for it's own benefit, and the rest of us can slowly die as long as they make money.
- RHSeeger 8y agoAnother example https://onemileatatime.com/google-fi-review/ https://onemileatatime.com/google-fi-review/
- foobiekr 8y agoRevenue as true north?