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I'm about to graduate BSCS from an engineering school, and every networking job I've seen wants experience + CCNA/CCNP, and the system administration jobs want

by greyhat 16y ago

I'm about to graduate BSCS from an engineering school, and every networking job I've seen wants experience + CCNA/CCNP, and the system administration jobs want BSCS + experience. I have 5+ years of part time IT experience and a summer of full time basically admin level experience and yet I can't even get interviews. Pretty depressing. =|

KevinMS 16y ago
Its just crazy they want a BSCS for sysadmin. That's like requiring a truck driver to have a degree in thermodynamics.
- greyhat 16y ago
  Do you know any good places to look for sysadmin jobs that might be more open?
  - KevinMS 16y ago
    Wish I could help you. My only suggestion is to ignore the requirements. It must be tough though, a programmer can send samples, a designer can send a portfolio, but what can a sysadmin do.
    - alain94040 16y ago
      I just blogged minutes ago with a solution for you: http://blog.fairsoftware.net/2010/11/10/how-to-land-a-job-at-google-or-elsewhere/ http://blog.fairsoftware.net/2010/11/10/how-to-land-a-job-at... In the case of a sysadmin job, this is how I would do it: start showing some expertise in configuring Linux virtual instances, discuss why and how you manage them, share tips and tricks you learned. That will do you a lot of good on your resume, help you land interviews, and help you convince during those interviews. Especially if you are competing with other college grads with 0 experience, you'll stand out.
    - smiler 16y ago
      A sys admin can set up a virtual network on EC2. He can blog about it, he can then ask to take his laptop to the interview (check beforehand if WiFi / ethernet is available, otherwise perhaps a 3g dongle) and they can demonstrate everything they can do. Just imagine a sysadmin turning up with their laptop and demonstrating... 1. Provisioning of servers where they've created the *nix build, deployed a web app, mysql etc 2. They show off their system monitoring capability, take down a few services and then show off their e-mail alerts. Bonus points for twilio integration with SMS :) 3. They then show the backup process they have and how they verify their backups 4. The sysadmin then runs a series of security tests against a server and shows the results I would hire that guy in an instant
- mechanical_fish 16y ago
  We hire cloud sysadmins. The trucks drive themselves: Your job is to manage the fleet of tow trucks (filling in as mechanic when necessary), to figure out which brand of tires is 0.5% more reliable, and to make sure the trailers are optimally loaded with the correct packages.

by greyhat 16y ago

KevinMS 16y ago

Its just crazy they want a BSCS for sysadmin. That's like requiring a truck driver to have a degree in thermodynamics.

greyhat 16y ago
Do you know any good places to look for sysadmin jobs that might be more open?
- KevinMS 16y ago
  Wish I could help you. My only suggestion is to ignore the requirements. It must be tough though, a programmer can send samples, a designer can send a portfolio, but what can a sysadmin do.
  - alain94040 16y ago
    I just blogged minutes ago with a solution for you: http://blog.fairsoftware.net/2010/11/10/how-to-land-a-job-at-google-or-elsewhere/ http://blog.fairsoftware.net/2010/11/10/how-to-land-a-job-at... In the case of a sysadmin job, this is how I would do it: start showing some expertise in configuring Linux virtual instances, discuss why and how you manage them, share tips and tricks you learned. That will do you a lot of good on your resume, help you land interviews, and help you convince during those interviews. Especially if you are competing with other college grads with 0 experience, you'll stand out.
  - smiler 16y ago
    A sys admin can set up a virtual network on EC2. He can blog about it, he can then ask to take his laptop to the interview (check beforehand if WiFi / ethernet is available, otherwise perhaps a 3g dongle) and they can demonstrate everything they can do. Just imagine a sysadmin turning up with their laptop and demonstrating... 1. Provisioning of servers where they've created the *nix build, deployed a web app, mysql etc 2. They show off their system monitoring capability, take down a few services and then show off their e-mail alerts. Bonus points for twilio integration with SMS :) 3. They then show the backup process they have and how they verify their backups 4. The sysadmin then runs a series of security tests against a server and shows the results I would hire that guy in an instant
mechanical_fish 16y ago
We hire cloud sysadmins. The trucks drive themselves: Your job is to manage the fleet of tow trucks (filling in as mechanic when necessary), to figure out which brand of tires is 0.5% more reliable, and to make sure the trailers are optimally loaded with the correct packages.