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For me, with keto, I have much less of a hunger feeling, making things more manageable (As I've said in another thread). Agree with the mental clarity also. Ho

For me, with keto, I have much less of a hunger feeling, making things more manageable (As I've said in another thread). Agree with the mental clarity also. How did you stick with it though? I can do the diet, but find it hard to do with social stuff. For me, doing keto was quite a lonely thing.

johnkpaul 8y ago
What social stuff? I have vodka sodas if I need to drink. Almost every restaurant will give plain foods with butter on the side (usually for free).
- zachruss92 8y ago
  I agree with vodka sodas, I will also occasionally have a Michelob Ultra (2.4g carbs per bottle). I don't have any issues eating out either.
misiti3780 8y ago
how long did it take you to go into ketosis - im on day 10 and still havnt not gone in (im not really overweight)
- rgoodwintx 8y ago
  Rule of thumb (Keto for mostly 15+ yrs, from 300lbs to 180) is 2-3 days, and at least Atkins version is those 2-3 days at <20 carbs. "Being in ketosis" is hard to track; the urine test strips are helpful but not always accurate. Someone came up with a breath analyzer at some point but I lost track of the project. Some recent stuff has shown that a 24-36hr fast can "kick start" ketosis as well; anecdotally it seems to work for me, but again I have to kind of go by feel. (Or if I note that I suddenly drop the 3-5 lbs of water weight that came on when out of ketosis.)
  - zachruss92 8y ago
    The breath analyzer that is being hyped right now is called Keyto. You can also get blood testers and prick your finger. I don't track myself being in ketosis on a daily basis, but I can definitely tell if I go over based on how I feel.
- bonestamp2 8y ago
  How are you testing... urine strips? For me, I can feel the difference in my brain when I change over. It's subtle, but I'd compare it to the change in feeling when you drink caffeine after not drinking it for too long.
  - misiti3780 8y ago
    blood.
  - misiti3780 8y ago
    im also drinking exogenous ketones too now
- Frondo 8y ago
  How strict are you being with carbs?
  - misiti3780 8y ago
    < 20 grams per day, basically all i eat is broccoli rabe and grilled chicken. maybe im not eating enough fat.
    - Frondo 8y ago
      Too much protein can also kick you off/keep you off keto. Definitely up the fat, especially cause grilled chicken won't be particularly fatty itself...
      - misiti3780 8y ago
        thanks
- guitarbill 8y ago
  it doesn't take me long at all if i'm very strict on the carb limit, especially if i fast for a day before. maybe 2 or 3 days? but i don't get keto flu at all, so ymmv
zachruss92 8y ago
Yea hunger is completely more manageable, from what I understand it's related to not having severe insulin fluctuations. I'm only ~6 months in, so I can't speak from a point of authority here, but my partner has been doing keto with me which definitely helped get me over the initial hump. Now, I just look at how far I've come and know that if I revert to my old ways I'll thwart the progress I've worked so hard to achieve. Honestly, right now it isn't hard to stick with. I purposefully broke keto once (for my birthday). I had Pho and some cake. It was deliberate and delicious, and the next day I felt like complete garbage. That also helps motivate me as I like feeling good :)
Frondo 8y ago
I'll chime in and say, the social stuff has never been a problem when I've done keto. Out at bars, I'll have whiskey + diet cokes, gin + club sodas, basically anything that's a shot and a calorie-free mixer and you're good. Eating out, most cuisines you can adapt. Nowhere serves a keto pizza, for example, but even stuff like Indian, there's a buffet where if you avoid the rice and legume-based stuff and stick to meats and veg, you're in good shape. Eating at friends' places is the one tricky thing, but these days people are pretty cool with it if you decline food based on a dietary restriction. Giving up snacks or junky foods like breakfast cereal is the hardest for me, but there's a great keto porridge recipe I like -- add a handful of berries and it's still 2-3 grams carbs but filling and good. Longest I stuck with it so far was 6 months, for accelerated weight loss, and now I prefer a lower-carb diet but am no longer strict about keto stuff. Best outcome was breaking my relationship to food -- like it rewired the part of my brain that was all "satiate your hunger with sugary junk" to where I can satisfy hunger cravings with a handful of nuts, or even a hot tea with cream. That seems to be permanent so far.
- tracker1 8y ago
  It's funny but breakfast was really easy... I never felt hungry at breakfast anyway. I have noticed how well I do if I get a fat coffee (coffee+butter+mct oil, and flavored stevia blended) in the morning over ice though. I do that about once a week or so.
tracker1 8y ago
The social piece is hard for me... my GF moved in with me last year... I was eating one meal a day for the most part and doing pretty well, now I'm trying to keep lunch in check and not overdo dinner. The other aspect is the bagels, doughnuts, and birthday cakes etc at work. Those things have been harder than retraining myself not to eat when watching TV in the evenings.

johnkpaul 8y ago

What social stuff? I have vodka sodas if I need to drink. Almost every restaurant will give plain foods with butter on the side (usually for free).

zachruss92 8y ago
I agree with vodka sodas, I will also occasionally have a Michelob Ultra (2.4g carbs per bottle). I don't have any issues eating out either.

misiti3780 8y ago

how long did it take you to go into ketosis - im on day 10 and still havnt not gone in (im not really overweight)

rgoodwintx 8y ago
Rule of thumb (Keto for mostly 15+ yrs, from 300lbs to 180) is 2-3 days, and at least Atkins version is those 2-3 days at <20 carbs. "Being in ketosis" is hard to track; the urine test strips are helpful but not always accurate. Someone came up with a breath analyzer at some point but I lost track of the project. Some recent stuff has shown that a 24-36hr fast can "kick start" ketosis as well; anecdotally it seems to work for me, but again I have to kind of go by feel. (Or if I note that I suddenly drop the 3-5 lbs of water weight that came on when out of ketosis.)
- zachruss92 8y ago
  The breath analyzer that is being hyped right now is called Keyto. You can also get blood testers and prick your finger. I don't track myself being in ketosis on a daily basis, but I can definitely tell if I go over based on how I feel.
bonestamp2 8y ago
How are you testing... urine strips? For me, I can feel the difference in my brain when I change over. It's subtle, but I'd compare it to the change in feeling when you drink caffeine after not drinking it for too long.
- misiti3780 8y ago
  blood.
- misiti3780 8y ago
  im also drinking exogenous ketones too now
Frondo 8y ago
How strict are you being with carbs?
- misiti3780 8y ago
  < 20 grams per day, basically all i eat is broccoli rabe and grilled chicken. maybe im not eating enough fat.
  - Frondo 8y ago
    Too much protein can also kick you off/keep you off keto. Definitely up the fat, especially cause grilled chicken won't be particularly fatty itself...
    - misiti3780 8y ago
      thanks
guitarbill 8y ago
it doesn't take me long at all if i'm very strict on the carb limit, especially if i fast for a day before. maybe 2 or 3 days? but i don't get keto flu at all, so ymmv

zachruss92 8y ago

Yea hunger is completely more manageable, from what I understand it's related to not having severe insulin fluctuations. I'm only ~6 months in, so I can't speak from a point of authority here, but my partner has been doing keto with me which definitely helped get me over the initial hump. Now, I just look at how far I've come and know that if I revert to my old ways I'll thwart the progress I've worked so hard to achieve. Honestly, right now it isn't hard to stick with. I purposefully broke keto once (for my birthday). I had Pho and some cake. It was deliberate and delicious, and the next day I felt like complete garbage. That also helps motivate me as I like feeling good :)

Frondo 8y ago

I'll chime in and say, the social stuff has never been a problem when I've done keto. Out at bars, I'll have whiskey + diet cokes, gin + club sodas, basically anything that's a shot and a calorie-free mixer and you're good. Eating out, most cuisines you can adapt. Nowhere serves a keto pizza, for example, but even stuff like Indian, there's a buffet where if you avoid the rice and legume-based stuff and stick to meats and veg, you're in good shape. Eating at friends' places is the one tricky thing, but these days people are pretty cool with it if you decline food based on a dietary restriction. Giving up snacks or junky foods like breakfast cereal is the hardest for me, but there's a great keto porridge recipe I like -- add a handful of berries and it's still 2-3 grams carbs but filling and good. Longest I stuck with it so far was 6 months, for accelerated weight loss, and now I prefer a lower-carb diet but am no longer strict about keto stuff. Best outcome was breaking my relationship to food -- like it rewired the part of my brain that was all "satiate your hunger with sugary junk" to where I can satisfy hunger cravings with a handful of nuts, or even a hot tea with cream. That seems to be permanent so far.

tracker1 8y ago
It's funny but breakfast was really easy... I never felt hungry at breakfast anyway. I have noticed how well I do if I get a fat coffee (coffee+butter+mct oil, and flavored stevia blended) in the morning over ice though. I do that about once a week or so.

tracker1 8y ago

The social piece is hard for me... my GF moved in with me last year... I was eating one meal a day for the most part and doing pretty well, now I'm trying to keep lunch in check and not overdo dinner. The other aspect is the bagels, doughnuts, and birthday cakes etc at work. Those things have been harder than retraining myself not to eat when watching TV in the evenings.