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The key is that people actually don't eat less. They feel more hungry when they exercise, which drives them to eat more, which pushes the vicious cycle even fu

by jki275 8y ago

The key is that people actually don't eat less. They feel more hungry when they exercise, which drives them to eat more, which pushes the vicious cycle even further.

paulcole 8y ago
That's like saying, "Cars don't work on roads" but conveniently forgetting to add, "...if you don't step on the gas." I am speaking as someone who has lost about 75-100 pounds (no clue I was too ashamed to step on a scale) and kept it off for 10+ years. I can guarantee you that exercising more and eating less works even if it's not what anyone wants to hear.
crysin 8y ago
There's also eating less and actually eating less. You can eat less food, but if the food you're eating is higher in calories then you're not going to lose weight. Part of the problem with eating less, is the size / portion of what you eat matters just as much as what you are actually eating. As an extreme example: The size of a slice of cheesecake is roughly equivalent to the size of a breast of chicken however eating the slice of cheesecake is eating a lot "more" than eating that breast of chicken.
- SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
  That's why if you're going to lose weight you gotta focus on the information and know that what you just ate was x calories / x% of your daily intake and act upon that knowledge.
wenc 8y ago
There's one way out of this vicious cycle. I substituted the prodigious amounts of refined carbs I used to eat (pasta, rice) with meat, vegetables and a reduced amount of carbs. The proteins definitely helped with the hunger (and being a carnivore, it didn't take much to convince me to eat more meat -- though for me it's mostly white meat and eggs). I actually ended up eating more I also started lifting weights. Exercising increases appetite for sure, but proteins satiates it. I didn't lose that much weight (10 lbs), but I managed to convert what used to be flab to muscle. Exercise + protein/vegetable diet (even if eating more) = body shape change.
addicted 8y ago
Maybe this isn’t common, but I find that exercising indeed leads to me eating less. Further, after exercising, my tastes very obviously gravitate towards more protein and fiber rich foods, and away from sugary chocolates and sweets. I find that when I am inactive, I am constantly hungry. Part of this I think is exercise helps me sleep better, and better sleep reduces my appetite.
- metabagel 8y ago
  I agree that exercise can be helpful for appetite suppression. Although, it appears that this effect varies by type of exercise and other factors. https://health.usnews.com/wellness/fitness/articles/2017-07-07/does-exercise-make-you-hungry-or-suppress-your-appetite https://health.usnews.com/wellness/fitness/articles/2017-07-...
chrisseaton 8y ago
Why are you evaluating the effects of eating less by looking at people who aren't eating less?
- jki275 8y ago
  The point is that for most people "exercise and eat less" doesn't happen. Most people are undisciplined and unable to achieve it.

by jki275 8y ago

The key is that people actually don't eat less. They feel more hungry when they exercise, which drives them to eat more, which pushes the vicious cycle even further.

paulcole 8y ago

That's like saying, "Cars don't work on roads" but conveniently forgetting to add, "...if you don't step on the gas." I am speaking as someone who has lost about 75-100 pounds (no clue I was too ashamed to step on a scale) and kept it off for 10+ years. I can guarantee you that exercising more and eating less works even if it's not what anyone wants to hear.

crysin 8y ago

There's also eating less and actually eating less. You can eat less food, but if the food you're eating is higher in calories then you're not going to lose weight. Part of the problem with eating less, is the size / portion of what you eat matters just as much as what you are actually eating. As an extreme example: The size of a slice of cheesecake is roughly equivalent to the size of a breast of chicken however eating the slice of cheesecake is eating a lot "more" than eating that breast of chicken.

SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
That's why if you're going to lose weight you gotta focus on the information and know that what you just ate was x calories / x% of your daily intake and act upon that knowledge.

wenc 8y ago

There's one way out of this vicious cycle. I substituted the prodigious amounts of refined carbs I used to eat (pasta, rice) with meat, vegetables and a reduced amount of carbs. The proteins definitely helped with the hunger (and being a carnivore, it didn't take much to convince me to eat more meat -- though for me it's mostly white meat and eggs). I actually ended up eating more I also started lifting weights. Exercising increases appetite for sure, but proteins satiates it. I didn't lose that much weight (10 lbs), but I managed to convert what used to be flab to muscle. Exercise + protein/vegetable diet (even if eating more) = body shape change.

addicted 8y ago

Maybe this isn’t common, but I find that exercising indeed leads to me eating less. Further, after exercising, my tastes very obviously gravitate towards more protein and fiber rich foods, and away from sugary chocolates and sweets. I find that when I am inactive, I am constantly hungry. Part of this I think is exercise helps me sleep better, and better sleep reduces my appetite.

metabagel 8y ago
I agree that exercise can be helpful for appetite suppression. Although, it appears that this effect varies by type of exercise and other factors. https://health.usnews.com/wellness/fitness/articles/2017-07-07/does-exercise-make-you-hungry-or-suppress-your-appetite https://health.usnews.com/wellness/fitness/articles/2017-07-...

chrisseaton 8y ago

Why are you evaluating the effects of eating less by looking at people who aren't eating less?

jki275 8y ago
The point is that for most people "exercise and eat less" doesn't happen. Most people are undisciplined and unable to achieve it.