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It’s easy to see how people might wonder if vaccines cause autism—many children regress developmentally right after receiving vaccinations. It’s been conclusiv

It’s easy to see how people might wonder if vaccines cause autism—many children regress developmentally right after receiving vaccinations. It’s been conclusively proven that this is correlation, not causation. There is absolutely no doubt: vaccines do not cause autism. But it’s emotionally easier to for parents to believe they have a reason and someone to blame than the stark truth that their child’s autism is not yet understood Tell that to the parents of the afflicted children. If the autism was not a genetic condition then the vaccines must be the cause. Simply because the mechanism by which autism develops is not understood doesn't mean the vaccines were not the cause. post hoc, ergo propter hoc It is similar to the argument of those who maintained although there was a correlation between the presence of the HIV virus and the AIDS disease, it was only a correlation because the mechanism by which the HIV virus caused AIDS was not understood. I for one not being in the medical profession cannot say for sure that the actually mechanism is well understood. I say again, tell that to the afflicted. And what has this got to do with the Internet? If the Internet gives the opportunity to spread falsities as well as truths at Internet speed is it an inherent fault?

SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
Sorry, I'm a bit confused - are you trying to lay out the faulty reasoning, or are you saying that vaccines COULD cause autism?
- vfclists 8y ago
  Wasn't there a link between the MMR vaccine and autism in African-American boys that the researchers suppressed in the initial findings? As far as autism was concerned research showed a correlation between autism and African American boys and the parents of those boys noticed that it began soon after the boys were adminstered the vaccine, and that was way before the researchers themselves admitted that there was a correlation. As far as I am concerned vaccines cause autism in some cases. Just because the actual mechanism has not been discovered doesn't mean they are not the cause, for the simple reason that you cannot simply vaccinate human beings with the intention of finding the causal link between vaccines and autism, which assumes that the neurological basis of autism is clearly defined. https://www.ageofautism.com/2014/08/whistleblower-says-cdc-knew-in-2003-of-higher-autism-rate-among-african-american-boys-receiving-mmr-shot-earlier-than-36-mont.html https://www.ageofautism.com/2014/08/whistleblower-says-cdc-k... https://thevaccinereaction.org/2017/05/african-americans-vaccines-and-a-history-of-suspicion/ https://thevaccinereaction.org/2017/05/african-americans-vac... On the other side are numerous horror stories involving vaccinated children like that of Harvard-educated attorney George Fatheree, who was pressured by a pediatrician to resume vaccination despite seizures his infant, Clayton, experienced after a previous round of vaccines. That night, Clayton’s seizures returned and he stopped speaking for three years. He grew into a severely disabled teen, suffering dozens of seizures a day. Because of similar vaccine-related injuries and deaths, the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program—a fund under the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services set up to shield vaccine manufacturers from liability—has paid out over $3.6 billion in compensation to affected families. If the blogger wants to give an example of false notions propagated at Internet speed, they can do a lot better than using the link between autism and vaccinations as an example.
  - SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
    >Wasn't there a link between the MMR vaccine and autism in African-American boys that the researchers suppressed in the initial findings? > As far as autism was concerned research showed a correlation between autism and African American boys and the parents of those boys noticed that it began soon after the boys were adminstered the vaccine, and that was way before the researchers themselves admitted that there was a correlation. You're going to have to find some articles that aren't from suuuppppeeerrr biased sites. Only the age of autism has any sort of scientific paper link, and that paper they referenced was withdrawn due to Brian Hookers conflict of interest (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Hooker_(bioengineer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Hooker_(bioengineer)). > Just because the actual mechanism has not been discovered doesn't mean they are not the cause That's a weird thing to assume. In that case turning 1 is the greatest cause of autism.

SketchySeaBeast 8y ago

Sorry, I'm a bit confused - are you trying to lay out the faulty reasoning, or are you saying that vaccines COULD cause autism?

vfclists 8y ago
Wasn't there a link between the MMR vaccine and autism in African-American boys that the researchers suppressed in the initial findings? As far as autism was concerned research showed a correlation between autism and African American boys and the parents of those boys noticed that it began soon after the boys were adminstered the vaccine, and that was way before the researchers themselves admitted that there was a correlation. As far as I am concerned vaccines cause autism in some cases. Just because the actual mechanism has not been discovered doesn't mean they are not the cause, for the simple reason that you cannot simply vaccinate human beings with the intention of finding the causal link between vaccines and autism, which assumes that the neurological basis of autism is clearly defined. https://www.ageofautism.com/2014/08/whistleblower-says-cdc-knew-in-2003-of-higher-autism-rate-among-african-american-boys-receiving-mmr-shot-earlier-than-36-mont.html https://www.ageofautism.com/2014/08/whistleblower-says-cdc-k... https://thevaccinereaction.org/2017/05/african-americans-vaccines-and-a-history-of-suspicion/ https://thevaccinereaction.org/2017/05/african-americans-vac... On the other side are numerous horror stories involving vaccinated children like that of Harvard-educated attorney George Fatheree, who was pressured by a pediatrician to resume vaccination despite seizures his infant, Clayton, experienced after a previous round of vaccines. That night, Clayton’s seizures returned and he stopped speaking for three years. He grew into a severely disabled teen, suffering dozens of seizures a day. Because of similar vaccine-related injuries and deaths, the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program—a fund under the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services set up to shield vaccine manufacturers from liability—has paid out over $3.6 billion in compensation to affected families. If the blogger wants to give an example of false notions propagated at Internet speed, they can do a lot better than using the link between autism and vaccinations as an example.
- SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
  >Wasn't there a link between the MMR vaccine and autism in African-American boys that the researchers suppressed in the initial findings? > As far as autism was concerned research showed a correlation between autism and African American boys and the parents of those boys noticed that it began soon after the boys were adminstered the vaccine, and that was way before the researchers themselves admitted that there was a correlation. You're going to have to find some articles that aren't from suuuppppeeerrr biased sites. Only the age of autism has any sort of scientific paper link, and that paper they referenced was withdrawn due to Brian Hookers conflict of interest (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Hooker_(bioengineer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Hooker_(bioengineer)). > Just because the actual mechanism has not been discovered doesn't mean they are not the cause That's a weird thing to assume. In that case turning 1 is the greatest cause of autism.