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This is exactly the ongoing problem with the EU they don't distinguish between large corporations and small businesses which really illustrate how clueless the
by ThomPete 8y ago
This is exactly the ongoing problem with the EU they don't distinguish between large corporations and small businesses which really illustrate how clueless the EU is when it comes to the market and the businesses that are governed.
- toyg 8y agoThe post explicitly mentions a clause that will make that distinction. The author argues it might be removed from the final text as part of the ongoing horse-trading, but at least it’s clear MEPs do understand the difference nowadays.
- yostrovs 8y agoI don't understand the difference and where one would draw the line between small and large businesses. What about medium businesses?
- ThomPete 8y agoMedium is part of small (SMBs')
- ThomPete 8y agoIf they did they wouldn't have implemented GDRP as it was. The very fact that it might be removed in a horse-trade illustrates my point.
- toyg 8y agoThat's just politics. It would be exactly the same at the national level.
- ThomPete 8y agoThat doesn't make it better. As far as I am aware the US does have rules that distinguish like that. Implementing regulations for every company as if they are the same is what is absurd here.
- toyg 8y agoThe US are many things, but certainly not a model on the subject of personal-data protection.
- ThomPete 8y agoAgain that's missing the point. There is a difference between making a law that punishes wrongful use of information and then forcing companies to do things a certain way. That's the point here which seems to be missed on most.
- Aengeuad 8y agoIt would be insane to implement privacy and data regulations differently for smaller companies. You would end up with startups having free reign to abuse peoples privacy in order to gain market dominance against their larger competitors who don't have this advantage, and you'd have larger companies near the threshold arguing about and doing everything in their power to stay under their threshold so they can avoid doing things like allowing people to delete their profiles or downloading their data to transfer to a competitor. Smaller or less important leaks would be brushed up under the rug because 'Well, at least they're not BA', nothing good would come of it. If the law is unduly harsh on smaller companies that's due to the realities of dealing with people's personal information in a secure manner, not because the legislators decided to put people before corporations.
- ThomPete 8y agoNo it wouldn't. Large companies can pay for a lot of things that small companies can't. What is insane is putting in regulation in areas like this instead of just punishing people for mis-conduct.
- BurritoAlPastor 8y agoYou can’t punish companies for misconduct if you don’t have laws against that misconduct.
- ThomPete 8y agoBut we do have laws and we can improve those laws without adding more bureaucracy to companies which is what GDRP do.
- jsjolen 8y agoGDPR has extended what misconduct entails. If your company acts ethically regarding the privacy of your users you'll be fine.
- ThomPete 8y ago
- kodablah 8y ago> This is exactly the ongoing problem with the EU they don't distinguish between large corporations and small businesses Personally, I don't think laws should discriminate like this, and if a law is not good for business overall, it should be shuttered, not targeted. There are exceptions of course, but I don't think there should be on the internet (or information in general).
- ThomPete 8y agoLaws are discriminating by their very nature when they apply the same price on something for a small company vs. a larger one. Keep in mind that mostly we are ADDING regulation not removing with which means that existing companies get the benefit of not having had to deal with the same when they were small. This is the real problem.