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I would love to be cut off from Facebook. Please do it now.

TomMarius 8y ago
What about other people that like the service? Why don't you stop using it yourself and instead try to forcibly impose your personal ideals on others?
- askmike 8y ago
  The problem with Facebook is that they track everyone, FB users or not. Most likely breaking GDPR for basically every European who uses the internet. Good talk from a few weeks ago: https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9941-how_facebook_tracks_you_on_android https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9941-how_facebook_tracks_you_on_... (that's just android, but they do just as much web tracking through their pixel for example).
- mrweasel 8y ago
  Agreed, it's a way over the top. However, I would like the EU, or the US, to tell Facebook to get their data collection and reselling under control. The GDPR should have taken care of that issue, but until someone drag Facebook to count over a GDPR violation and wins, nothing is going to change.
offsetr 8y ago
Too bad, gdpr actually makes facebook stronger..
- y4mi 8y ago
  Not unless their lawyers somehow keep the regulation from being enforced for them indefinitely. The regulation itself forbids their main income source
  - pas 8y ago
    no it doesn't. facebook was always pretty good at asking for permission. it showed you that so and so app will have access to this and that. and people blindly clicked it, because they wanted the maffia wars, the mob wars, the farmville, the latest zinga shitclick time waster to one up their friends in imaginary internet point games. (I tried them too, then luckily the fad wore off.) FB has to show who they sell data to, that's the new part basically. They will probably show a long list of random companies. It'll look a bit scary, people will get accustomed to it. (FB will find a dark pattern that minimizes the attrition due to any permission/consent step in their money machine.)
    - y4mi 8y ago
      But that is the thing. The regulation is still in effect, even after they gave the permission. The identifiable information still has to be encrypted. They still need to specify exactly where the information will go and why. And if a new company wants to access the data or even wants to use the provided Information for something new, Facebook has to ask permission again. Once again telling the user why that company needs permission and why as well. It's doubtful that the current blanket prompt is enough. But it remains to be seen wherever the law will be enforced and it's of course possible,that nothing will change and regulator's never act on the law
      - pas 8y ago
        FB will have to do the aggregation themselves, and then the sell the aggregated data. no PII. and they are doing that, allowing targeting and stopped the messaging legacy APIs, now if an app wants to read your messages it has to ask for permission. (I don't even know if there is such a permission anymore.) That said, I hope the EU courts will look at them the first time they fuck up. (And that might be right now. But so far I'm not aware of any recent FB data/privacy abuse.)
- rcMgD2BwE72F 8y ago
  How so?

What about other people that like the service? Why don't you stop using it yourself and instead try to forcibly impose your personal ideals on others?

askmike 8y ago
The problem with Facebook is that they track everyone, FB users or not. Most likely breaking GDPR for basically every European who uses the internet. Good talk from a few weeks ago: https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9941-how_facebook_tracks_you_on_android https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9941-how_facebook_tracks_you_on_... (that's just android, but they do just as much web tracking through their pixel for example).
mrweasel 8y ago
Agreed, it's a way over the top. However, I would like the EU, or the US, to tell Facebook to get their data collection and reselling under control. The GDPR should have taken care of that issue, but until someone drag Facebook to count over a GDPR violation and wins, nothing is going to change.

offsetr 8y ago

Too bad, gdpr actually makes facebook stronger..

y4mi 8y ago
Not unless their lawyers somehow keep the regulation from being enforced for them indefinitely. The regulation itself forbids their main income source
- pas 8y ago
  no it doesn't. facebook was always pretty good at asking for permission. it showed you that so and so app will have access to this and that. and people blindly clicked it, because they wanted the maffia wars, the mob wars, the farmville, the latest zinga shitclick time waster to one up their friends in imaginary internet point games. (I tried them too, then luckily the fad wore off.) FB has to show who they sell data to, that's the new part basically. They will probably show a long list of random companies. It'll look a bit scary, people will get accustomed to it. (FB will find a dark pattern that minimizes the attrition due to any permission/consent step in their money machine.)
  - y4mi 8y ago
    But that is the thing. The regulation is still in effect, even after they gave the permission. The identifiable information still has to be encrypted. They still need to specify exactly where the information will go and why. And if a new company wants to access the data or even wants to use the provided Information for something new, Facebook has to ask permission again. Once again telling the user why that company needs permission and why as well. It's doubtful that the current blanket prompt is enough. But it remains to be seen wherever the law will be enforced and it's of course possible,that nothing will change and regulator's never act on the law
    - pas 8y ago
      FB will have to do the aggregation themselves, and then the sell the aggregated data. no PII. and they are doing that, allowing targeting and stopped the messaging legacy APIs, now if an app wants to read your messages it has to ask for permission. (I don't even know if there is such a permission anymore.) That said, I hope the EU courts will look at them the first time they fuck up. (And that might be right now. But so far I'm not aware of any recent FB data/privacy abuse.)
rcMgD2BwE72F 8y ago
How so?