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The 2nd paragraph: "Now, even putting quality aside, competitors can’t match Apple’s prices." Does not jive with the prices mentioned later: Apple Ipad - $599

The 2nd paragraph: "Now, even putting quality aside, competitors can’t match Apple’s prices." Does not jive with the prices mentioned later: Apple Ipad - $599/$699 for the 16/32 GB models Samsung Galaxy S - $594 HTC A8181 Desire - $527 I don't know what the author's definition of "match" is, but seems to me Android tablet makers have matched prices quite well. *Edit: fixed my formatting

alanthonyc 16y ago
7" screens vs. 10" screens?
- arron61 16y ago
  7" vs 10" screens but failedl to mention that the Galaxy Tab also has dual cameras, a GPS chip, a cellular chip, and etc - things not seen on the ipad. I think the Tab could have been priced lower but Samsung wanted to see if they could technically compete with the ipad at the same price point first. And if things don't go well, reduce the prices later. Why shoot yourself in the foot to begin with? And additionally when Android lifts the hardware requirement to obtain the Android Market, you will definitely see much cheaper tablets such as Archos and even the Galaxy WiFi Tab.
  - ojbyrne 16y ago
    The (admittedly more expensive) 3G ipad has both a cellular and a GPS chip. $629/$729 for 16/32 gigs.
    - schultzor 16y ago
      I'd bet that some of the 3G iPad's $130 premium is also a concession to ATT for the contract-less data plan options.
      - ropiku 16y ago
        Possible but in the UK there's a £100 premium and it's available on all carriers
- tcskeptic 16y ago
  Actually the linked item is an unlocked phone with a 3.7" screen. The parent comparison is invalid. Gruber is actually comparing it to an unlocked iPhone for $599/$699 as he should be, he is not comparing it to an iPad.
harpastum 16y ago
The A8181 Desire you link to has no built-in memory and a screen that is less than a quarter the size of the iPad's. You're comparing apples to oranges.
ary 16y ago
His definition of "match" seems to be device dimensions, performance, and battery life. Juxtaposing the iPad with a smartphone in an attempt to compare the prices doesn't seem right (you linked to an HTC A8181, but mentioned the Galaxy S). Did you mean to compare it to the Tab?
- nowarninglabel 16y ago
  The author is the one comparing to Galaxy S, I was just pointing out: "These prices compare quite well to the competition. The Samsung Galaxy S — a decent choice for the current “Best Android Phone on the Market” title (check back next week, though) — costs about $600 unlocked from Amazon, and only has only 8 GB of built-in storage. The HTC Desire costs just under $600. Google’s Nexus One, while they were selling it, cost $529."
andreyf 16y ago
He's talking about cost of actually building the device. A big part of the iPhone's consumer price ($700 for 32gig) is markup, as he points out in comparing it to the price of the iPod touch, which is $300 for a comprable model. In other words, he's claiming that Apple could undercut the A8181 Desire or the Galaxy S on price, but keeping the customer choose between "FREE* shiny new phone" or "$200* shiny new phone" reinforces the perception of Apple as a premium brand. * with 2 year contract
- jon_hendry 16y ago
  " as he points out in comparing it to the price of the iPod touch, which is $300 for a comprable model." But the iPod touch has some corners cut. No anti-oil coating on the screen, for one. It also retains the former body shape, not the flat-glass-on-both-sides iPhone 4 style.
  - saint-loup 16y ago
    One other downside for the Touch: no IPS display.
    - andreyf 16y ago
      http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/features/retina-display.html http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/features/retina-display.html
      - jon_hendry 16y ago
        It's not clear if that's an IPS LCD identical to the iPhone 4's, or if it's a non-IPS LCD with the same resolution.
- nowarninglabel 16y ago
  If that is what the author is talking about, then the author is still off (at least based on this analysis): Galaxy S $205 build cost - http://bit.ly/bocdoe http://bit.ly/bocdoe Apple Ipad $264.27 - http://bit.ly/aW8mvu http://bit.ly/aW8mvu (bit.ly links cause the links are huge, goes to Isuppli)
mitmatt 16y ago
For the record, the iPad is $499/$599 for 16/32 GB (WiFi) models, not $599/$699 as you stated: www.apple.com/ipad http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipad/family/ipad?aid=AIC-WWW-NAUS-K2-BUYNOW-IPAD-INDEX&cp=BUYNOW-IPAD-INDEX http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipad/family/ipad?...

alanthonyc 16y ago

7" screens vs. 10" screens?

arron61 16y ago
7" vs 10" screens but failedl to mention that the Galaxy Tab also has dual cameras, a GPS chip, a cellular chip, and etc - things not seen on the ipad. I think the Tab could have been priced lower but Samsung wanted to see if they could technically compete with the ipad at the same price point first. And if things don't go well, reduce the prices later. Why shoot yourself in the foot to begin with? And additionally when Android lifts the hardware requirement to obtain the Android Market, you will definitely see much cheaper tablets such as Archos and even the Galaxy WiFi Tab.
- ojbyrne 16y ago
  The (admittedly more expensive) 3G ipad has both a cellular and a GPS chip. $629/$729 for 16/32 gigs.
  - schultzor 16y ago
    I'd bet that some of the 3G iPad's $130 premium is also a concession to ATT for the contract-less data plan options.
    - ropiku 16y ago
      Possible but in the UK there's a £100 premium and it's available on all carriers
tcskeptic 16y ago
Actually the linked item is an unlocked phone with a 3.7" screen. The parent comparison is invalid. Gruber is actually comparing it to an unlocked iPhone for $599/$699 as he should be, he is not comparing it to an iPad.

harpastum 16y ago

The A8181 Desire you link to has no built-in memory and a screen that is less than a quarter the size of the iPad's. You're comparing apples to oranges.

ary 16y ago

His definition of "match" seems to be device dimensions, performance, and battery life. Juxtaposing the iPad with a smartphone in an attempt to compare the prices doesn't seem right (you linked to an HTC A8181, but mentioned the Galaxy S). Did you mean to compare it to the Tab?

nowarninglabel 16y ago
The author is the one comparing to Galaxy S, I was just pointing out: "These prices compare quite well to the competition. The Samsung Galaxy S — a decent choice for the current “Best Android Phone on the Market” title (check back next week, though) — costs about $600 unlocked from Amazon, and only has only 8 GB of built-in storage. The HTC Desire costs just under $600. Google’s Nexus One, while they were selling it, cost $529."

andreyf 16y ago

He's talking about cost of actually building the device. A big part of the iPhone's consumer price ($700 for 32gig) is markup, as he points out in comparing it to the price of the iPod touch, which is $300 for a comprable model. In other words, he's claiming that Apple could undercut the A8181 Desire or the Galaxy S on price, but keeping the customer choose between "FREE* shiny new phone" or "$200* shiny new phone" reinforces the perception of Apple as a premium brand. * with 2 year contract

jon_hendry 16y ago
" as he points out in comparing it to the price of the iPod touch, which is $300 for a comprable model." But the iPod touch has some corners cut. No anti-oil coating on the screen, for one. It also retains the former body shape, not the flat-glass-on-both-sides iPhone 4 style.
- saint-loup 16y ago
  One other downside for the Touch: no IPS display.
  - andreyf 16y ago
    http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/features/retina-display.html http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/features/retina-display.html
    - jon_hendry 16y ago
      It's not clear if that's an IPS LCD identical to the iPhone 4's, or if it's a non-IPS LCD with the same resolution.
nowarninglabel 16y ago
If that is what the author is talking about, then the author is still off (at least based on this analysis): Galaxy S $205 build cost - http://bit.ly/bocdoe http://bit.ly/bocdoe Apple Ipad $264.27 - http://bit.ly/aW8mvu http://bit.ly/aW8mvu (bit.ly links cause the links are huge, goes to Isuppli)

mitmatt 16y ago

For the record, the iPad is $499/$599 for 16/32 GB (WiFi) models, not $599/$699 as you stated: www.apple.com/ipad http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipad/family/ipad?aid=AIC-WWW-NAUS-K2-BUYNOW-IPAD-INDEX&cp=BUYNOW-IPAD-INDEX http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipad/family/ipad?...