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The 'doomsday' scenario: what happens if the shutdown drags on
- makerofspoons 8y agoIt is crazy to me we continue to allow our leaders to have this government shutdown football to play with. Change the law so that by default the previous level of funding is re-authorized if no new deal is reached or better yet trigger a reelection of our representatives if they fail to reach a new funding deal.
- matte_black 8y agoTriggering re-election can be a motivation for causing a long shutdown. Falling back to sensible defaults is good enough.
- jbob2000 8y agoNo, this doesn't work either. You need a threat to get people to talk to each other and resolve issues, otherwise dissenters will just happily continue dissenting, riding on the "defaults". Usually the threat of starving an entire country is enough to get people to act, but this is a special time with special people.
- matte_black 8y agoThe entire country will not starve because of a government shutdown. What's real special is that this shutdown could be ended in an instant by giving one minor concession and one side really doesn't want to do it, for mostly symbolic reasons.
- beart 8y agoI honestly do not know which side you are referring to as your statement could apply to either and be true.
- matte_black 8y agoI carefully worded it so I would not get downvoted to hell. But some people will know what I’m talking about.
- feistypharit 8y agoThe problem is both sides will have to give a little. If anybody just caves it'll be political suicide for them.
- cannonedhamster 8y agoCaving used to be called compromise. The current political environment doesn't allow for compromise or changing your mind in light of new, better information. In science that would be the standard. In politics that's called "flip-flopping".
- feistypharit 8y agoI think there should be some repercussions for them too. Like, they should be the first to go without pay. And then, if it drags on too long, start garnishing from their holdings, personal and business assets.
- RickJWagner 8y agoI usually disagree with Cher on political matters, but on this one she has Tweeted a good point. Cher is urging 'her side' (Democrats) to yield and allow the sought-after funding. Her reasoning is that people are being hurt by the shutdown, the Democrats can be the 'hero' by bringing the change that re-opens the government. I think she may be right on this one.
- cannonedhamster 8y agoShe's not. If Democrats give in to the demands of Pres. Trump it will only embolden him that his methods work. Democrats have nothing to lose, they passed a clean bill, they offered money for border security, etc. Democrats tried negotiating in good faith, Pres. Trump has his opinions literally dictated by Fox News and right wing pundits, which means that even his own party can't even count on him. This is entirely meant to be a distraction from the Mueller investigations so Pres. Trump has no vested interest in ending it. He had 2 years in which to get the funding passed unopposed, he chose not to. This is entirely a manufactured controversy intended to distract. Anything the Democrats did agree to would immediately be thrown out by Pres. Trump. The only person who can end the shutdown is the President.
- justanopinion 8y agoI’m certain that This is a critical time of the political time of a long time coming change, everyone has had enough time to think about it
- justanopinion 8y agoTrumps tantrums are not getting anything done
- justanopinion 8y agoHe’s not going to spend his billion dollars on the wall?