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I do too, for personal use (OpenRC on Gentoo user through and through), but due to the adoption of systemd by popular distributions I don’t see an alternative f

by isatty 8y ago

I do too, for personal use (OpenRC on Gentoo user through and through), but due to the adoption of systemd by popular distributions I don’t see an alternative for work. Unfortunately.

geggam 8y ago
I moved all my personal things to OpenBSD due to the Linux community move away from unix standards
- DyslexicAtheist 8y ago
  seconded. the Linux fanboy community (which I've no doubt been part of until today and still defend bc of the FOSS spirit) is just getting too much. Linux is a victim of its own success. Bloat and inconsistency everywhere and compared to openBSD they rather move fast and break things rather than chose coherent design. Linux Security as it exists today is an oxymoron. Not to mention the community that consists in BSD of people who know what they do and can be trusted with auditing code. Linux code audits are a joke ... they rather hurl abuse at security guys (e.g. "masturbating monkeys") or outright ignore them ... (no time to discuss esthetics and coherent design because it's all about shipping fast at all cost - the same and only way they do in their day jobs ...)
- smhenderson 8y ago
  That's what I did as well. But I also continue to use Slackware which doesn't have any current plans to move to SystemD. It was the first Linux distro I ever used and I still love it to this day. I've used many different systems for work over the years but I've kept at least one Slackware laptop or desktop going since early 1995 when I first found a Slackware CDROM in the back of a book about learning Linux. Although it gets new software, bug fixes and minor updates here and there it's remarkably similar today to what it was then. And I find it Just Works, I've had very little trouble with it over the years. I think I like it too because it always felt like the most traditional Unix like distro I've ever used and also more BSD than System V which I also generally prefer.
  - geggam 8y ago
    I do have Slackware as well, so far it hasn't left its roots.
- asveikau 8y ago
  I like OpenBSD a lot, but I have to nitpick your description: OpenBSD diverges from "standards" when they decide the standard doesn't make sense. They are not afraid to tear down working things when they decide it's necessary, and I've faced a lot of release-to-release breakage, forced reconfigurations, or features I've relied on go completely missing without a lot of warning. Still a great project that I use every day, I'm not knocking it. It's just not a great example of a change-averse type of stability.
toast0 8y ago
If you've got the career capital, move somewhere that doesn't use it? Look for places that run servers on FreeBSD, perhaps.

by isatty 8y ago

I do too, for personal use (OpenRC on Gentoo user through and through), but due to the adoption of systemd by popular distributions I don’t see an alternative for work. Unfortunately.

geggam 8y ago

I moved all my personal things to OpenBSD due to the Linux community move away from unix standards

DyslexicAtheist 8y ago
seconded. the Linux fanboy community (which I've no doubt been part of until today and still defend bc of the FOSS spirit) is just getting too much. Linux is a victim of its own success. Bloat and inconsistency everywhere and compared to openBSD they rather move fast and break things rather than chose coherent design. Linux Security as it exists today is an oxymoron. Not to mention the community that consists in BSD of people who know what they do and can be trusted with auditing code. Linux code audits are a joke ... they rather hurl abuse at security guys (e.g. "masturbating monkeys") or outright ignore them ... (no time to discuss esthetics and coherent design because it's all about shipping fast at all cost - the same and only way they do in their day jobs ...)
smhenderson 8y ago
That's what I did as well. But I also continue to use Slackware which doesn't have any current plans to move to SystemD. It was the first Linux distro I ever used and I still love it to this day. I've used many different systems for work over the years but I've kept at least one Slackware laptop or desktop going since early 1995 when I first found a Slackware CDROM in the back of a book about learning Linux. Although it gets new software, bug fixes and minor updates here and there it's remarkably similar today to what it was then. And I find it Just Works, I've had very little trouble with it over the years. I think I like it too because it always felt like the most traditional Unix like distro I've ever used and also more BSD than System V which I also generally prefer.
- geggam 8y ago
  I do have Slackware as well, so far it hasn't left its roots.
asveikau 8y ago
I like OpenBSD a lot, but I have to nitpick your description: OpenBSD diverges from "standards" when they decide the standard doesn't make sense. They are not afraid to tear down working things when they decide it's necessary, and I've faced a lot of release-to-release breakage, forced reconfigurations, or features I've relied on go completely missing without a lot of warning. Still a great project that I use every day, I'm not knocking it. It's just not a great example of a change-averse type of stability.

toast0 8y ago

If you've got the career capital, move somewhere that doesn't use it? Look for places that run servers on FreeBSD, perhaps.