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I don't understand why people are reacting to it so aggressively. That's basically how AWS works, they did the same to Apach Kafka with Kinesis, Prestodb with A

I don't understand why people are reacting to it so aggressively. That's basically how AWS works, they did the same to Apach Kafka with Kinesis, Prestodb with Athena, PostgreSQL and MySQL with Aurora, Redis with ElastiCache and many others over the last 4 years so it's not new. It took too long for the open-source community to figure out that the cloud providers are killing them, now it's too late. Well played, AWS.

QuestionMarking 8y ago
It's because nerds love to lose their shit any time a big company does anything.
konschubert 8y ago
Well, people are angry about that, that’s why they react aggressively.
- buremba 8y ago
  Open-source gave AWS the ability to monetize their software so the software companies should be careful enough to prevent any other big company to steal their software and use their name to make money. I think that it's too late considering AWS already did that to most of the industries but here is Hazelcast's take: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-source-needs-protect-itself-from-service-wrappers-greg-luck/ https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-source-needs-protect-its...
driverdan 8y ago
> It took too long for the open-source community to figure out that the cloud providers are killing them How are service providers killing FOSS? That doesn't make sense. Permissive FOSS licensing allows anyone to use their software, regardless of how it's used, and that's how it should be.
- keepper 8y ago
  Do you get to see AWS's source code for these services? No... That's how it's killing "FOSS". Extend and Extinguish. This is not a new playbook.
  - SilasX 8y ago
    I don't think you get to see MongoDB's source code for the enterprise edition either (though I couldn't quickly verify on Google).
    - keepper 8y ago
      Of course they provide source! Source rpms and tgz are downloadable. Enterprise isn’t gpl, but source is provided. (This could have been easily answered with a google search, as you pointed out)
      - SilasX 8y ago
        No, I meant that I did search it on Google, and couldn't easily see from the results which case it is. Google "mongodb enterprise source code" -- which one answers the question? If it were so easy, you could have provided the citation yourself in that comment.

QuestionMarking 8y ago

It's because nerds love to lose their shit any time a big company does anything.

konschubert 8y ago

Well, people are angry about that, that’s why they react aggressively.

buremba 8y ago
Open-source gave AWS the ability to monetize their software so the software companies should be careful enough to prevent any other big company to steal their software and use their name to make money. I think that it's too late considering AWS already did that to most of the industries but here is Hazelcast's take: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-source-needs-protect-itself-from-service-wrappers-greg-luck/ https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-source-needs-protect-its...

driverdan 8y ago

> It took too long for the open-source community to figure out that the cloud providers are killing them How are service providers killing FOSS? That doesn't make sense. Permissive FOSS licensing allows anyone to use their software, regardless of how it's used, and that's how it should be.

keepper 8y ago
Do you get to see AWS's source code for these services? No... That's how it's killing "FOSS". Extend and Extinguish. This is not a new playbook.
- SilasX 8y ago
  I don't think you get to see MongoDB's source code for the enterprise edition either (though I couldn't quickly verify on Google).
  - keepper 8y ago
    Of course they provide source! Source rpms and tgz are downloadable. Enterprise isn’t gpl, but source is provided. (This could have been easily answered with a google search, as you pointed out)
    - SilasX 8y ago
      No, I meant that I did search it on Google, and couldn't easily see from the results which case it is. Google "mongodb enterprise source code" -- which one answers the question? If it were so easy, you could have provided the citation yourself in that comment.