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Flux/Redux were inspired by The Elm Architecture. I don't know if there was something similar before Elm popularised this style of building user interfaces. Co

Flux/Redux were inspired by The Elm Architecture. I don't know if there was something similar before Elm popularised this style of building user interfaces. Concur was first written in Haskell, so it's got the Functional Programming part down :) The other interesting part was TEA, which is hard to simplify further, but I think Concur's model manages to do that while simultaneously being more powerful. Edit: I don't know what gave you the impression that I don't like types. I love types! I wish JS had more of them. I write Haskell/Purescript (and Javascript) in my day job.

hardwaresofton 8y ago
> Flux/Redux were inspired by The Elm Architecture. I don't know if there was something similar before Elm popularised this style of building user interfaces. Didn't know that, weird how it's come full circle in a way, I don't think people would consider Elm as approachable as they do now if React, Flux and resultingly redux hadn't gotten so popular. There was also a bit of a hype train behind FRP for a while but that seems to have petered out a bit. To be fair I'm not an Elm expert but try to keep up with it, I have yet to write something big in it, but I absolutely believe the hype because the hype isn't hype, those of us that are writing or at least peeked at the Haskell/ML world have been living in this world up until now. > Edit: I don't know what gave you the impression that I don't like types. I love types! I wish JS had more of them. I write Haskell/Purescript (and Javascript) in my day job. Sorry I didn't mean to imply that you don't, I will go back and edit my comment -- I meant I still run into that sentiment, most recently at a meetup last month. It's not like I don't understand it, you can move faster without type checking but a lot of times that just means letting code with silly bugs through that you're going to find @ runtime.
- haskman 8y ago
  > You can move faster without type checking but a lot of times that just means letting code with silly bugs through that you're going to find @ runtime. Oh yeah absolutely. And also, FP and immutability makes everything much easier to understand. Getting new devs making changes to 50k lines of JS is much much much worse than with a Haskell/Purescript/Elm project of similar complexity.

hardwaresofton 8y ago

> Flux/Redux were inspired by The Elm Architecture. I don't know if there was something similar before Elm popularised this style of building user interfaces. Didn't know that, weird how it's come full circle in a way, I don't think people would consider Elm as approachable as they do now if React, Flux and resultingly redux hadn't gotten so popular. There was also a bit of a hype train behind FRP for a while but that seems to have petered out a bit. To be fair I'm not an Elm expert but try to keep up with it, I have yet to write something big in it, but I absolutely believe the hype because the hype isn't hype, those of us that are writing or at least peeked at the Haskell/ML world have been living in this world up until now. > Edit: I don't know what gave you the impression that I don't like types. I love types! I wish JS had more of them. I write Haskell/Purescript (and Javascript) in my day job. Sorry I didn't mean to imply that you don't, I will go back and edit my comment -- I meant I still run into that sentiment, most recently at a meetup last month. It's not like I don't understand it, you can move faster without type checking but a lot of times that just means letting code with silly bugs through that you're going to find @ runtime.

haskman 8y ago
> You can move faster without type checking but a lot of times that just means letting code with silly bugs through that you're going to find @ runtime. Oh yeah absolutely. And also, FP and immutability makes everything much easier to understand. Getting new devs making changes to 50k lines of JS is much much much worse than with a Haskell/Purescript/Elm project of similar complexity.