1. is a bad thing because it means gmail et al will never support an E2E standard, meaning the proposal is DOA. 2. How is it a straw man argument? I'm not sayi

1. is a bad thing because it means gmail et al will never support an E2E standard, meaning the proposal is DOA. 2. How is it a straw man argument? I'm not saying it isn't possible, rather that it adds more complexity for little business value to companies. Don't get me wrong, I'd love better email security/privacy. I went so far as trying SMIME for a year. I just don't see this situation improving.