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I think what we are seeing is world wide there is improvement, but our economic system has a non-uniform performance depending on the state of the region. In a

by dv_dt 8y ago

I think what we are seeing is world wide there is improvement, but our economic system has a non-uniform performance depending on the state of the region. In a relatively undeveloped area, expansion into basically non-serviced markets is efficient and an improvement. In a relatively developed area (e.g. the US and many first world nations), it is failing. In the US for example, life expectancy has dropped three years running. More and more people fall to a median income that doesn't even let them have kids and send them to college, and seems to be falling to where they can't even pay for minor emergencies. That's not improvement.

harryh 8y ago
Yes, the opiate addiction is a temporary setback, but improvement is almost never monatomic in every population subset. Worldwide life expectancy continues to rise at a pretty good pace.
- dv_dt 8y ago
  I don't think you can blame opiate addiction alone. (Sorry I was adding to the text while you were replying).
  - harryh 8y ago
    'eh sure. It's just the most obvious culprit when there are surely many causes. Regardless, I stick by my overall point. It's a temporary setback in an otherwise very strongly positive trend. I'd bet money that US life expectancy in 2023 is hither than it was in 2018.
dpark 8y ago
> In the US for example, life expectancy has dropped three years running. Largely due to obesity and related diseases. People are dying from overabundance. The percentage of people at "subsistence" levels is quite low. > More and more people fall to a median income that doesn't even let them have kids and send them to college, and seems to be falling to where they can't even pay for minor emergencies. That's not improvement. Is this at all true? Paying for your kids' college simply wasn't something most people did even 30 years ago, because most kids didn't go to college.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > Largely due to obesity and related diseases No, the decline is due primarily to drug overdoses, and that mainly from the opioid epidemic. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/28/us-life-expectancy-drops-as-opioid-deaths-and-suicide-rates-rise.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/28/us-life-expectancy-drops-as-...

by dv_dt 8y ago

harryh 8y ago

Yes, the opiate addiction is a temporary setback, but improvement is almost never monatomic in every population subset. Worldwide life expectancy continues to rise at a pretty good pace.

dv_dt 8y ago
I don't think you can blame opiate addiction alone. (Sorry I was adding to the text while you were replying).
- harryh 8y ago
  'eh sure. It's just the most obvious culprit when there are surely many causes. Regardless, I stick by my overall point. It's a temporary setback in an otherwise very strongly positive trend. I'd bet money that US life expectancy in 2023 is hither than it was in 2018.

dpark 8y ago

> In the US for example, life expectancy has dropped three years running. Largely due to obesity and related diseases. People are dying from overabundance. The percentage of people at "subsistence" levels is quite low. > More and more people fall to a median income that doesn't even let them have kids and send them to college, and seems to be falling to where they can't even pay for minor emergencies. That's not improvement. Is this at all true? Paying for your kids' college simply wasn't something most people did even 30 years ago, because most kids didn't go to college.

dragonwriter 8y ago
> Largely due to obesity and related diseases No, the decline is due primarily to drug overdoses, and that mainly from the opioid epidemic. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/28/us-life-expectancy-drops-as-opioid-deaths-and-suicide-rates-rise.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/28/us-life-expectancy-drops-as-...