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> "They should just support ApplePay, Google Pay and a credit card and be done with it." They should take cash.

michaelt 8y ago
With cash, what happens if I put in $5 and my car only uses $3 of electricity? Or if someone pulls out the charge cable after my car's only taken $1 of electricity? With electronic payments, you can pre-authorize a reasonable amount, then charge the customer for the amount they've used - no excess charges or change required.
- delecti 8y ago
  > With cash, what happens if I put in $5 and my car only uses $3 of electricity? Or if someone pulls out the charge cable after my car's only taken $1 of electricity? What happens is the same as when filling a car with gas.
  - sokoloff 8y ago
    Which is the attendant or cashier gives me change. I haven’t seen a human attendant near any charge point stations.
- dragontamer 8y ago
  Wait, have you never paid cash at a gas station before? You go up to the teller, tell him which pump your car is in, and get your $2 back.
  - blang 8y ago
    Or if you buy a ticket for cash at a train station from a vending machine, it gives you back change usually in dollar coins.
    - darkpuma 8y ago
      Or you could even buy a pre-paid RFID card with cash that keeps your balance on it. Many cities have vending machines that dispense these for bus fairs. There are numerous ways to do this, it's a solved problem many times over.
  - darkpuma 8y ago
    > "Wait, have you never paid cash at a gas station before?" That seems to actually be a distinct possibility. Some people seem to use cash so infrequently they forget it even exists.
    - Thriptic 8y ago
      To be fair, paying with cash at a gas station is annoying if your objective is to fill your tank completely rather than spend X amount as it forces you to guess your prospective spend.
      - rypskar 8y ago
        That depend on where you are. This started about how it is in Europe, where it is common to first fill your tank, then go inside to pay if you want to pay with cash
  - shmolyneaux 8y ago
    I suspect that most new college grads have never used cash to buy gas (myself included).
    - Tsubasachan 8y ago
      Automated fuel stations are always the cheapest. The only reason to go to a manned station is for the shop or cafeteria and you're paying 5-10 cents more per litre for the privilege.
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  - scarejunba 8y ago
    These stations can be unmanned.
  - mcpherrinm 8y ago
    Most car chargers are standalone devices in a parking lot. There is no teller to pay. I have never seen one with an attendant. They could take cash automatically like a vending machine but that's going to require new staff to go around and collect money and deposit it. Probably much more expensive than taking credit cards.
    - _archon_ 8y ago
      Have the dispenser display a code for a $2 future credit. Or to be redeemed for cash at a later time somewhere cash transactions with humans exist. Or just use a standard vending machine module and give change with a restocking employee. The market will decide if it's more expensive. Customers exist who will commute to another charger so they can pay cash. If the money left on the table is more than the cost of the cash module and attendant, it will be adopted.
- y_tho 8y ago
  what happens if I put in $5 and my car only uses $3 of electricity? Automated change has been a thing for ages, see: vending machines, public phones. Or if someone pulls out the charge cable after my car's only taken $1 of electricity? Mind your property.

With cash, what happens if I put in $5 and my car only uses $3 of electricity? Or if someone pulls out the charge cable after my car's only taken $1 of electricity? With electronic payments, you can pre-authorize a reasonable amount, then charge the customer for the amount they've used - no excess charges or change required.

delecti 8y ago
> With cash, what happens if I put in $5 and my car only uses $3 of electricity? Or if someone pulls out the charge cable after my car's only taken $1 of electricity? What happens is the same as when filling a car with gas.
- sokoloff 8y ago
  Which is the attendant or cashier gives me change. I haven’t seen a human attendant near any charge point stations.
dragontamer 8y ago
Wait, have you never paid cash at a gas station before? You go up to the teller, tell him which pump your car is in, and get your $2 back.
- blang 8y ago
  Or if you buy a ticket for cash at a train station from a vending machine, it gives you back change usually in dollar coins.
  - darkpuma 8y ago
    Or you could even buy a pre-paid RFID card with cash that keeps your balance on it. Many cities have vending machines that dispense these for bus fairs. There are numerous ways to do this, it's a solved problem many times over.
- darkpuma 8y ago
  > "Wait, have you never paid cash at a gas station before?" That seems to actually be a distinct possibility. Some people seem to use cash so infrequently they forget it even exists.
  - Thriptic 8y ago
    To be fair, paying with cash at a gas station is annoying if your objective is to fill your tank completely rather than spend X amount as it forces you to guess your prospective spend.
    - rypskar 8y ago
      That depend on where you are. This started about how it is in Europe, where it is common to first fill your tank, then go inside to pay if you want to pay with cash
- shmolyneaux 8y ago
  I suspect that most new college grads have never used cash to buy gas (myself included).
  - Tsubasachan 8y ago
    Automated fuel stations are always the cheapest. The only reason to go to a manned station is for the shop or cafeteria and you're paying 5-10 cents more per litre for the privilege.
- deleted 8y ago
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- scarejunba 8y ago
  These stations can be unmanned.
- mcpherrinm 8y ago
  Most car chargers are standalone devices in a parking lot. There is no teller to pay. I have never seen one with an attendant. They could take cash automatically like a vending machine but that's going to require new staff to go around and collect money and deposit it. Probably much more expensive than taking credit cards.
  - _archon_ 8y ago
    Have the dispenser display a code for a $2 future credit. Or to be redeemed for cash at a later time somewhere cash transactions with humans exist. Or just use a standard vending machine module and give change with a restocking employee. The market will decide if it's more expensive. Customers exist who will commute to another charger so they can pay cash. If the money left on the table is more than the cost of the cash module and attendant, it will be adopted.
y_tho 8y ago
what happens if I put in $5 and my car only uses $3 of electricity? Automated change has been a thing for ages, see: vending machines, public phones. Or if someone pulls out the charge cable after my car's only taken $1 of electricity? Mind your property.