As has been noted by others, we have never "had a go" at Clojure. Language designers and the people who build them have our respect, even if our choices differ.

As has been noted by others, we have never "had a go" at Clojure. Language designers and the people who build them have our respect, even if our choices differ. If we criticize them (and we do at times, being human, and thinking we're right ;^), we try to be fair. Rich Hickey's talks are some of my favorite to watch, and I have nothing but respect and admiration for him. Of course everything has a cost, but to call us megalomaniacs is a bit harsh. You didn't say you understood the reason, but I pointed it out in another reply here. By bootstrapping from Rebol, and being 95% Rebol compatible, we proved that Red could self host, and also leverage almost all the existing code when we get to that point. To ask if we understand those issues comes across as insulting. Sure, we could be tech smart but miss obvious things, but that one we know about. ;^)