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Android itself has undeletable Google apps.

simulate 8y ago
All phones have undeletable apps provided by their manufacturers. For example, on iPhones you cannot delete Messages, Phone, Safari, Clock, Photos, Health, App Store, and Camera in a conventional way.
- reaperducer 8y ago
  Phone Not much of a phone without a phone app. But Apple does sell an iPhone without a Phone app. It's called an iPod.
  - Rebelgecko 8y ago
    Does iOS not support 3rd party dialer and SMS apps?
    - ryandrake 8y ago
      It does not. Just things like Skype, WhatsApp, etc.
  - deleted 8y ago
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petre 8y ago
You can install LineageOS if your phone supports it. No Google Apps unless you install them. Also no crap.
vetinari 8y ago
They are easily disable-able.
- tatami 8y ago
  Not all of them. I couldn't disable Chrome on my previous smartphone.
  - vetinari 8y ago
    That's the manufacturer playing shenanigans. Unfortunately, it happens (Samsung?). It is still disable-able, just not as easily, as you need adb and usb cable.
dalore 8y ago
Not all Android platforms. The Amazon Fire platform which is Android is clearly lacking the Google apps and it's pain to install them.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > The Amazon Fire platform which is Android No, while it is an AOSP-derivative, it is not Android.
  - dalore 8y ago
    You better update Wikipedia with that information then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS > Amazon Fire OS is an Android-based mobile operating system produced by Amazon .... The A in AOSP stands for Android. Android Operating System Guess you're splitting hairs and trying to say Android based isn't the same as saying Android. I would argue that the AOSP is Android (and that's what Wikipedia confirms here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) ) You're getting it confused with Google Mobile Services which is the crapware in question. > Android is also associated with a suite of proprietary software developed by Google, called Google Mobile Services[10] (GMS) that very frequently comes pre-installed in devices, which usually includes the Google Chrome web browser and Google Search and always includes core apps for services such as Gmail, as well as the application store and digital distribution platform Google Play, and associated development platform. These apps are licensed by manufacturers of Android devices certified under standards imposed by Google, but AOSP has been used as the basis of competing Android ecosystems, such as Amazon.com's Fire OS, which use their own equivalents to GMS.
    - dragonwriter 8y ago
      > You better update Wikipedia with that information then I'm under no obligation to correct every error in Wikipedia. Wikipedia> Amazon Fire OS is an Android-based mobile operating system It's actually AOSP-based, more than Android-based (whether the relationship between the two is such that the former is a subset of the latter is...another discussion.) But even Android-based isn't Android (OS X is BSD-based, but not BSD; MariaDB is MySQL based, but not MySQL; the legal systems of much of the US are English Common Law-based, but not English Common Law) Android devices, Android-compatible (per the ACP) devices, and devices running derivatives of the AOSP source code constitute a sequence in which each item describes a superset of the set described by the preceding item.

All phones have undeletable apps provided by their manufacturers. For example, on iPhones you cannot delete Messages, Phone, Safari, Clock, Photos, Health, App Store, and Camera in a conventional way.

reaperducer 8y ago
Phone Not much of a phone without a phone app. But Apple does sell an iPhone without a Phone app. It's called an iPod.
- Rebelgecko 8y ago
  Does iOS not support 3rd party dialer and SMS apps?
  - ryandrake 8y ago
    It does not. Just things like Skype, WhatsApp, etc.
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]

petre 8y ago

You can install LineageOS if your phone supports it. No Google Apps unless you install them. Also no crap.

vetinari 8y ago

They are easily disable-able.

tatami 8y ago
Not all of them. I couldn't disable Chrome on my previous smartphone.
- vetinari 8y ago
  That's the manufacturer playing shenanigans. Unfortunately, it happens (Samsung?). It is still disable-able, just not as easily, as you need adb and usb cable.

dalore 8y ago

Not all Android platforms. The Amazon Fire platform which is Android is clearly lacking the Google apps and it's pain to install them.

dragonwriter 8y ago
> The Amazon Fire platform which is Android No, while it is an AOSP-derivative, it is not Android.
- dalore 8y ago
  You better update Wikipedia with that information then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS > Amazon Fire OS is an Android-based mobile operating system produced by Amazon .... The A in AOSP stands for Android. Android Operating System Guess you're splitting hairs and trying to say Android based isn't the same as saying Android. I would argue that the AOSP is Android (and that's what Wikipedia confirms here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) ) You're getting it confused with Google Mobile Services which is the crapware in question. > Android is also associated with a suite of proprietary software developed by Google, called Google Mobile Services[10] (GMS) that very frequently comes pre-installed in devices, which usually includes the Google Chrome web browser and Google Search and always includes core apps for services such as Gmail, as well as the application store and digital distribution platform Google Play, and associated development platform. These apps are licensed by manufacturers of Android devices certified under standards imposed by Google, but AOSP has been used as the basis of competing Android ecosystems, such as Amazon.com's Fire OS, which use their own equivalents to GMS.
  - dragonwriter 8y ago
    > You better update Wikipedia with that information then I'm under no obligation to correct every error in Wikipedia. Wikipedia> Amazon Fire OS is an Android-based mobile operating system It's actually AOSP-based, more than Android-based (whether the relationship between the two is such that the former is a subset of the latter is...another discussion.) But even Android-based isn't Android (OS X is BSD-based, but not BSD; MariaDB is MySQL based, but not MySQL; the legal systems of much of the US are English Common Law-based, but not English Common Law) Android devices, Android-compatible (per the ACP) devices, and devices running derivatives of the AOSP source code constitute a sequence in which each item describes a superset of the set described by the preceding item.