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What about OnePlus?

gambiting 8y ago
Even though I am an extremely happy owner of a 5T, I won't buy another OnePlus device now that they have removed the headphone jack. That's the difficult part of voting with your wallet - your choices become more and more limited if the market isn't aligned with your personal preference.
- pmontra 8y ago
  Well said. I like small and light phones, not iOS. I'm typing this on an Xperia X Compact (2016). Follow up models weight more and maybe the product line will be discontinued. Even the iPhone SE is dead.
  - ForHackernews 8y ago
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/atom-world-s-smallest-4g-rugged-smartphone https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/atom-world-s...
    - imrelaxed 8y ago
      This might be the greatest prison phone ever
    - pmontra 8y ago
      Wow, that's really small. Actually it's what phones used to be before 2007.
      - ForHackernews 8y ago
        I got one off the kickstarter, and it's a neat little gadget. It hasn't fully replaced my main smartphone, but it's great for outdoors activities, or if I'm wearing an outfit without big pockets and don't want to carry a bag.
        pmontra 8y ago
        Did get another SIM or move the one from your phone into the Atom?
        ForHackernews 8y ago
        I swap my SIM when I want to use it, but it would be less hassle to get a separate one.
        pmontra 8y ago
        But then, how do people contact you? Anything tied to your phone number wouldn't work. Perhaps only Telegram, Skype, Messenger work cross device. Phone calls and WhatsApp don't.
        gambiting 8y ago
        For phone calls, good old call redirect is still a thing :P No idea about whatsapp though.
        ForHackernews 8y ago
        If I'm out cycling or paddling, I probably don't want to be all that reachable, anyway.
      - int_19h 8y ago
        I have the original Jelly phone, and it's actually smaller than Nokia phones I used in pre-smartphone days. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/jelly-the-smallest-4g-smartphone https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/jelly-the-sm...
        ForHackernews 8y ago
        How's the battery life? I got the Atom even though it's uglier because I read bad reviews of the Jelly's battery.
- cyphar 8y ago
  Also the 5T camera is awful if you aren't using their proprietary vendor blobs. Custom ROMs like Lineage take absolutely shocking photos.
  - secfirstmd 8y ago
    Can confirm. You are kinda forced into using their ROM. I just want a good Android phone with at least some level of enhanced privacy. Its such a pity Copperhead went kinda weird.
  - conradfr 8y ago
    I have the 5 and the photos are awful with the stock app...
- ProAm 8y ago
  And that one small time they were caught spying on all their users interactions [1] I say that as a pretty happy OnePlus 3T user. [1] https://fossbytes.com/oneplus-spying-users-disable/
- Kiro 8y ago
  For me it was the opposite, the removal of the obnoxious and ancient headphone jack was one of the reason I bought a 6T.
  - gambiting 8y ago
    I'm really curious why you think that. Obnoxious why? How? And ancient = bad? Boy, do I have some bad news about power sockets you have at home.......
    - Kiro 8y ago
      I want to embrace the future. The more phones to get rid of the headphone jack, the more headphone companies will realize they need to make wireless versions.
      - gambiting 8y ago
        That's like saying you want petrol stations to start closing down, so that manufacturers hurry up with electric cars. The logic is sound, but in the meantime it would be just bloody inconvenient to drive miles to a nearest petrol station while you still haven't got an electric car. I want wireless headphones too, but I don't want to use adapters with my existing(and very expensive) headphones that I have right now. More importantly, having a headphone jack does not stop bluetooth headphones from working.
      - Fins 8y ago
        It would be nice if there were a way to deliver something resembling a quality audio to wireless headphones first. And a way to connect quality headphones to that magical wireless delivery system. Then you can get rid of a jack.
    - simple_phrases 8y ago
      Audio over Bluetooth has been one of the most consistently terrible user experiences I've encountered, and I used Linux as my daily driver in the early 00's.

What about OnePlus?

Even though I am an extremely happy owner of a 5T, I won't buy another OnePlus device now that they have removed the headphone jack. That's the difficult part of voting with your wallet - your choices become more and more limited if the market isn't aligned with your personal preference.

pmontra 8y ago
Well said. I like small and light phones, not iOS. I'm typing this on an Xperia X Compact (2016). Follow up models weight more and maybe the product line will be discontinued. Even the iPhone SE is dead.
- ForHackernews 8y ago
  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/atom-world-s-smallest-4g-rugged-smartphone https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/atom-world-s...
  - imrelaxed 8y ago
    This might be the greatest prison phone ever
  - pmontra 8y ago
    Wow, that's really small. Actually it's what phones used to be before 2007.
    - ForHackernews 8y ago
      I got one off the kickstarter, and it's a neat little gadget. It hasn't fully replaced my main smartphone, but it's great for outdoors activities, or if I'm wearing an outfit without big pockets and don't want to carry a bag.
      - pmontra 8y ago
        Did get another SIM or move the one from your phone into the Atom?
        ForHackernews 8y ago
        I swap my SIM when I want to use it, but it would be less hassle to get a separate one.
        pmontra 8y ago
        But then, how do people contact you? Anything tied to your phone number wouldn't work. Perhaps only Telegram, Skype, Messenger work cross device. Phone calls and WhatsApp don't.
        gambiting 8y ago
        For phone calls, good old call redirect is still a thing :P No idea about whatsapp though.
        ForHackernews 8y ago
        If I'm out cycling or paddling, I probably don't want to be all that reachable, anyway.
    - int_19h 8y ago
      I have the original Jelly phone, and it's actually smaller than Nokia phones I used in pre-smartphone days. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/jelly-the-smallest-4g-smartphone https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/jelly-the-sm...
      - ForHackernews 8y ago
        How's the battery life? I got the Atom even though it's uglier because I read bad reviews of the Jelly's battery.
cyphar 8y ago
Also the 5T camera is awful if you aren't using their proprietary vendor blobs. Custom ROMs like Lineage take absolutely shocking photos.
- secfirstmd 8y ago
  Can confirm. You are kinda forced into using their ROM. I just want a good Android phone with at least some level of enhanced privacy. Its such a pity Copperhead went kinda weird.
- conradfr 8y ago
  I have the 5 and the photos are awful with the stock app...
ProAm 8y ago
And that one small time they were caught spying on all their users interactions [1] I say that as a pretty happy OnePlus 3T user. [1] https://fossbytes.com/oneplus-spying-users-disable/
Kiro 8y ago
For me it was the opposite, the removal of the obnoxious and ancient headphone jack was one of the reason I bought a 6T.
- gambiting 8y ago
  I'm really curious why you think that. Obnoxious why? How? And ancient = bad? Boy, do I have some bad news about power sockets you have at home.......
  - Kiro 8y ago
    I want to embrace the future. The more phones to get rid of the headphone jack, the more headphone companies will realize they need to make wireless versions.
    - gambiting 8y ago
      That's like saying you want petrol stations to start closing down, so that manufacturers hurry up with electric cars. The logic is sound, but in the meantime it would be just bloody inconvenient to drive miles to a nearest petrol station while you still haven't got an electric car. I want wireless headphones too, but I don't want to use adapters with my existing(and very expensive) headphones that I have right now. More importantly, having a headphone jack does not stop bluetooth headphones from working.
    - Fins 8y ago
      It would be nice if there were a way to deliver something resembling a quality audio to wireless headphones first. And a way to connect quality headphones to that magical wireless delivery system. Then you can get rid of a jack.
  - simple_phrases 8y ago
    Audio over Bluetooth has been one of the most consistently terrible user experiences I've encountered, and I used Linux as my daily driver in the early 00's.