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Completely agree. Also, lenovo phones are also well known in Europe, not in a good way. the dual-sim one I had while living in Kiev was dirt cheap, plastic scr
by a11595 8y ago
Completely agree. Also, lenovo phones are also well known in Europe, not in a good way. the dual-sim one I had while living in Kiev was dirt cheap, plastic screen, as fast as the samsungs out at that time but about 2mm thicker. that plastic screen was awesome and saved me many replacements.
the problem with the chinese crap, not just phones but TVs, pads, whatever, is they literally dump a bunch of decent hardware in there, and just stop. no QA, no support, nothing you can find online - so in a few months when any little thing breaks, or there's no way to fix an annoying feature, it goes in the trash.
lots of stories, but here's a couple. got a chinese phone so I never have to put a chinese sim into my real phone. pretty popular in china, good specs. root it and put a non-chinese OS? nothing, and I've searched in chinese.
About 4 years ago got a xiaoimi tablet. quad core, 2GB ram, mini-hdmi output, $70 on amazon. first month perfect. then - wifi started turning off after about 5min, only fixed by a reboot. no support, no documentation, nothing on forums - and it was sold for about 3 months and then they started selling some identical crap with a different model#. seriously, I have no problem paying $1-2k for a phone or pad. What I don't want is useless crap that wastes days of time and gets me pissed off so I can't fall asleep, a year later on a Tuesday.
The thing is, the Chinese culture is used to half-working crap, and they think it's normal. They pump shit out of the sewers, boil it, then use the oil floating on top to dilute cooking oil. At most restaurants. Phone has awkward interface, security holes, and 1 security update after release? who cares - your thoughts are on rent in a dirty apartment and food. If you order your steak medium - it's well done, because yes, they don't toss the beef when it goes bad - they serve it to you, everywhere.
Buildings use a bunch more cement and reinforcement than normal countries. Why? Because the construction workers eyeball all measurements and just don't care - if you don't account for error, it'll collapse.
Not knocking on the Chinese race (my wife is Chinese), but I am knocking their culture. Zero attention to detail, zero cares, zero pride in what you do. It works there, because life is shitty and you don't care about a UI bug when you're broke, there's no law, and an oppressive police force that puts you in jail to harvest your organs for the rich.
- markdown 8y ago> They pump shit out of the sewers, boil it, then use the oil floating on top to dilute cooking oil. At most restaurants. Citation needed. My understanding was that there are some crooks producing the sewer oil, but that it's used as an adulterant in cooking oil and the restaurants aren't knowingly cooking in sewer oil.
- tinus_hn 8y ago> Citation needed This is not Wikipedia.
- robjan 8y agoIt's not Wikipedia, but if you are going to judge a whole culture by one news story you had better proove that the problem is widespread
- tinus_hn 8y agoYou can certainly request a source if you disagree with the statement but it is not helpful to shout ‘citation needed’ as if this is an encyclopedia and everything you post needs references. You could say ‘I don’t think that is true, do you have references for that?’
- mango7283 8y agoI fail to see how your alternative way of phrasing differs in any meaningful way from "citation needed"
- pdpi 8y agoIt isn't, no. But that comment came as a reply to the sort of extraordinary statement that demands substantiation. Due to Wikipedia's cultural impact, "citation needed" has become a popular way to request exactly that.
- tinus_hn 8y agoIt’s not a request. It’s a dismissive demand. > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. ‘Citation needed’ teaches nothing but it is certainly very easy to type. It might be reasonable if there is a rule that citations are required like on Wikipedia, but here they are not. The fact that some behaviors are popular doesn’t make them appropriate. Trolling is also quite popular and so are a lot of inappropriate behaviors.
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- mmkhd 8y agoI would call the Chinese people very "enterprising". The lack of regulations / lack of enforcement of regulations leads to cutting corners for raw profit. But is this kind of deregulation not the wet dream of many American politicians? </snark> Chinese companies are getting better and better. A desoldering device (Zhongdi) and a 3D-printer (Anycubic) I bought recently are my anecdotal examples. When looking at older Youtube reviews and at my devices, one can clearly see that problematic details very corrected or improved in later versions of the device. Isn't this the same cylce Japan went through? At first cheap imitation, then better quality, then innovation? Wasn't "Made in Germany" first established as a British measure to warn consumers about a crappy product? In conclusion: there are many crappy Chinese products, but not all Chinese products are crappy. The better manufactures strive for more stable costumer relationships.