> if we treat egg layers nice, and if we treat cows nice can't we still have eggs and milk for a while? Not (really) trying to ruin your life here, but this i

> if we treat egg layers nice, and if we treat cows nice can't we still have eggs and milk for a while? Not (really) trying to ruin your life here, but this idea was crushed for me when I realised that only female chickens can lay eggs, and that roosters end up in the shredder as soon as their sex is identified. I guess that's still less suffering than those that are raised for slaughter in industrial farming, but it's still not great...