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We're asking the wrong questions. A full semester at my local community college is under $1000. Extrapolating to four years of undergrad education, that's $8,00

by rland 8y ago

We're asking the wrong questions. A full semester at my local community college is under $1000. Extrapolating to four years of undergrad education, that's $8,000 total. WHY do we need this never ending whirlpool of sophisticated financial schemes to take care of this problem?

austenallred 8y ago
What school is that? That’s very low.
- skywhopper 8y ago
  One that's heavily subsidized by its community, the same way most public universities in the United States used to be. The neverending slashing of education funding at the state level has led to sky-high student debt which leads to bad ideas like this one.
  - austenallred 8y ago
    I still have never seen tuition that low, even subsidized
    - pkaye 8y ago
      In California Community College is $46/unit for California residents. Typically people take 10-15 units. There are a few additional fees probably total under $100/semester.
      - r00fus 8y ago
        They used to be free, too, not too long ago.
applecrazy 8y ago
That’s true, but community colleges can’t award baccalaureate degrees. You would still need to transfer to a more expensive four-year university after 2 years (at least here in California).
ibeckermayer 8y ago
But would a community college degree give me as high a level of education in as short of a time period as I got from Holberton (a similar program to Lambda School)? With an ISA, the profit incentives of the education provider and the student are directly aligned, so education providers are more incentivized to innovate and provide greater value.
elteto 8y ago
This might be the case for small community colleges but public universities are closer to $400 and $500 per credit hour. See [0] for an example. [0] https://www.collegetuitioncompare.com/compare/tables/?state=TX&degree=Undergraduate&type=Public https://www.collegetuitioncompare.com/compare/tables/?state=...
- rland 8y ago
  Yeah, that's what I mean. Universities are far more expensive than they need to be.
- wahern 8y ago
  That data shows that most 4-year public colleges in Texas are less than $300/hour, with some less than $100/hour. The average is $238/hour. (From https://www.collegetuitioncompare.com/compare/tables/?state=TX&degree=Undergraduate&type=Public&level=4-year%20or%20High https://www.collegetuitioncompare.com/compare/tables/?state=...) Most people tend to discount the cheap, unknown schools. But they're accredited, which means they provide a vetted curriculum and their degree satisfies prerequisites for higher degrees at other accredited institutions.

by rland 8y ago

austenallred 8y ago

What school is that? That’s very low.

skywhopper 8y ago
One that's heavily subsidized by its community, the same way most public universities in the United States used to be. The neverending slashing of education funding at the state level has led to sky-high student debt which leads to bad ideas like this one.
- austenallred 8y ago
  I still have never seen tuition that low, even subsidized
  - pkaye 8y ago
    In California Community College is $46/unit for California residents. Typically people take 10-15 units. There are a few additional fees probably total under $100/semester.
    - r00fus 8y ago
      They used to be free, too, not too long ago.

applecrazy 8y ago

That’s true, but community colleges can’t award baccalaureate degrees. You would still need to transfer to a more expensive four-year university after 2 years (at least here in California).

ibeckermayer 8y ago

But would a community college degree give me as high a level of education in as short of a time period as I got from Holberton (a similar program to Lambda School)? With an ISA, the profit incentives of the education provider and the student are directly aligned, so education providers are more incentivized to innovate and provide greater value.

elteto 8y ago

This might be the case for small community colleges but public universities are closer to $400 and $500 per credit hour. See [0] for an example. [0] https://www.collegetuitioncompare.com/compare/tables/?state=TX&degree=Undergraduate&type=Public https://www.collegetuitioncompare.com/compare/tables/?state=...

rland 8y ago
Yeah, that's what I mean. Universities are far more expensive than they need to be.
wahern 8y ago
That data shows that most 4-year public colleges in Texas are less than $300/hour, with some less than $100/hour. The average is $238/hour. (From https://www.collegetuitioncompare.com/compare/tables/?state=TX&degree=Undergraduate&type=Public&level=4-year%20or%20High https://www.collegetuitioncompare.com/compare/tables/?state=...) Most people tend to discount the cheap, unknown schools. But they're accredited, which means they provide a vetted curriculum and their degree satisfies prerequisites for higher degrees at other accredited institutions.