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Been no bees where I live for 3 years now. Same with Monarchs. This happened as new homes were built in the area and old ones sold to new owners. Almost all of

by oblib 8y ago

Been no bees where I live for 3 years now. Same with Monarchs. This happened as new homes were built in the area and old ones sold to new owners. Almost all of them use pesticides, whereas the old timers dealt with the bugs by living with them, both good and bad.

deogeo 8y ago
With the exception of fighting malaria, I've never before heard of using pesticide for non-agricultural purposes :(
- ryanmercer 8y ago
  >With the exception of fighting malaria, This combined with the topic stirs a related thought, with some scientists wanting to fight malaria by gene-editing mosquitos it's worth noting that there are some plants that are pollinated primarily, if not solely, by some species of mosquitos. Stuff like cocoa (too small for other pollinators to service), goldenrod, some orchids. >using pesticide for non-agricultural purposes Pesticides are sold all the time for non-agricultural purposes. Some examples off the top of my head since I actually just did an EPA refresher today at work that included pesticides: - Oil of Citronella is classified as a pesticide by the EPA (other governments and international agreements) for mosquitos. - Esfenvalerate and Cyphenothrin for bed bucks, again by the EPA and international agreements.
  - ryanmercer 8y ago
    *bed bugs
- oblib 8y ago
  We have a lot of ticks and chiggers in the area (Ozark Mtns) but there are better ways to deal with those than "nuking" the lawns with chemical pesticides. I started "tick dragging" using a big bath towel treated with permethrin. The permethrin stays on the towel and ticks grab onto it as you walk along dragging it behind. That works better than anything else I've tried. Diatomaceous earth works great for chiggers. But I've had a hard time convincing others to try those options.
- AngryData 8y ago
  The wealthier people around me all use extensive amounts of pesticides, in large part because they also super fertilize their lawns which allows bugs and grubs and fungus and moles to have a feeding frenzy on it all, ruining their 'perfect' lawn and garden, which results in them ordering tons of pesticides from the same fertilizing company they have to treat.

by oblib 8y ago

deogeo 8y ago

With the exception of fighting malaria, I've never before heard of using pesticide for non-agricultural purposes :(

ryanmercer 8y ago
>With the exception of fighting malaria, This combined with the topic stirs a related thought, with some scientists wanting to fight malaria by gene-editing mosquitos it's worth noting that there are some plants that are pollinated primarily, if not solely, by some species of mosquitos. Stuff like cocoa (too small for other pollinators to service), goldenrod, some orchids. >using pesticide for non-agricultural purposes Pesticides are sold all the time for non-agricultural purposes. Some examples off the top of my head since I actually just did an EPA refresher today at work that included pesticides: - Oil of Citronella is classified as a pesticide by the EPA (other governments and international agreements) for mosquitos. - Esfenvalerate and Cyphenothrin for bed bucks, again by the EPA and international agreements.
- ryanmercer 8y ago
  *bed bugs
oblib 8y ago
We have a lot of ticks and chiggers in the area (Ozark Mtns) but there are better ways to deal with those than "nuking" the lawns with chemical pesticides. I started "tick dragging" using a big bath towel treated with permethrin. The permethrin stays on the towel and ticks grab onto it as you walk along dragging it behind. That works better than anything else I've tried. Diatomaceous earth works great for chiggers. But I've had a hard time convincing others to try those options.
AngryData 8y ago
The wealthier people around me all use extensive amounts of pesticides, in large part because they also super fertilize their lawns which allows bugs and grubs and fungus and moles to have a feeding frenzy on it all, ruining their 'perfect' lawn and garden, which results in them ordering tons of pesticides from the same fertilizing company they have to treat.