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Are there people who still believe the PR nonsense of big companies like Google and Facebook? At the end of the day by agreeing to work for these companies, you

Are there people who still believe the PR nonsense of big companies like Google and Facebook? At the end of the day by agreeing to work for these companies, you gain prestige, $$$, and maybe something interesting to work on, that is pretty much it and those are only offered to you because you bring in much more $$$ than you get in perks or $$$. If you are naive enough to think that these corporations are interested in anything but making money, you are sadly mistaken.

thatoneuser 8y ago
Well of course there are people that believe that. These multi billion dollar companies invest a lot of resources in promoting propaganda to make people believe it. Do you honestly think industries that rely on a keen ability to manipulate the masses can’t do that to potential employees too?
- strikelaserclaw 8y ago
  hell yea, in this era where knowledge workers are more valuable than pretty much anything else, it completely makes sense to do whatever it takes to appeal to them, and of course utilizing propaganda is just good business. Propaganda, it works on the stupid and smart alike, does not discriminate.
  - somenomad 8y ago
    I always used to question how people I worked with who are demonstratably much more intelligent than average could fall for things like this but then I realized I seem to have a unique set of circumstances in my life that kind of led me to question everything and be maybe more aware of propaganda than an average person. The more I've observed, traveled, interacted with people, etc the more I have realized people who are book smart are often highly susceptible to propaganda as they often will build up a mental image of the world from 3rd party sources, rather than first-hand experience, because they are so proficient at reading, analyzing, etc.
    - thatoneuser 8y ago
      What ere your circumstances? I also have a different background, and question everything.
tdb7893 8y ago
This comment makes me want to work for a large company. If all they provide is lots of money and potential for interesting work then that sounds great!
- efields 8y ago
  Doesn't even have to be large. I work for a public company that has a staff of < 200. Small engineering team inside of a non-software company. We solve business problems. Sometimes that means building SPA web apps. Sometimes it means coding up the corporate site redesign. It's up to you to make it interesting. I think it's interesting, and I always try to play a part in a project that works toward advancing my career goals. Pace is slower than the start-ups I've worked at in the past, but salary and incentives are above most tech start-up "competitive salaries" I hear about.
- nameless912 8y ago
  I work for a startup of ~400 employees (okay, maybe not much of a startup anymore...) and can confirm that lots of money and interesting work is available in many more places than just the Power 5.
taurath 8y ago
The question is at end of day if having strongly independent minds inside the company is better than having them outside the company. Yes its all about the bottom line, but just like costco gets a better bottom line by having extremely low employee churn through better wages, google/fb thinks they get a lot of benefit by keeping even opposed minds inside.

thatoneuser 8y ago

Well of course there are people that believe that. These multi billion dollar companies invest a lot of resources in promoting propaganda to make people believe it. Do you honestly think industries that rely on a keen ability to manipulate the masses can’t do that to potential employees too?

strikelaserclaw 8y ago
hell yea, in this era where knowledge workers are more valuable than pretty much anything else, it completely makes sense to do whatever it takes to appeal to them, and of course utilizing propaganda is just good business. Propaganda, it works on the stupid and smart alike, does not discriminate.
- somenomad 8y ago
  I always used to question how people I worked with who are demonstratably much more intelligent than average could fall for things like this but then I realized I seem to have a unique set of circumstances in my life that kind of led me to question everything and be maybe more aware of propaganda than an average person. The more I've observed, traveled, interacted with people, etc the more I have realized people who are book smart are often highly susceptible to propaganda as they often will build up a mental image of the world from 3rd party sources, rather than first-hand experience, because they are so proficient at reading, analyzing, etc.
  - thatoneuser 8y ago
    What ere your circumstances? I also have a different background, and question everything.

tdb7893 8y ago

This comment makes me want to work for a large company. If all they provide is lots of money and potential for interesting work then that sounds great!

efields 8y ago
Doesn't even have to be large. I work for a public company that has a staff of < 200. Small engineering team inside of a non-software company. We solve business problems. Sometimes that means building SPA web apps. Sometimes it means coding up the corporate site redesign. It's up to you to make it interesting. I think it's interesting, and I always try to play a part in a project that works toward advancing my career goals. Pace is slower than the start-ups I've worked at in the past, but salary and incentives are above most tech start-up "competitive salaries" I hear about.
nameless912 8y ago
I work for a startup of ~400 employees (okay, maybe not much of a startup anymore...) and can confirm that lots of money and interesting work is available in many more places than just the Power 5.

taurath 8y ago

The question is at end of day if having strongly independent minds inside the company is better than having them outside the company. Yes its all about the bottom line, but just like costco gets a better bottom line by having extremely low employee churn through better wages, google/fb thinks they get a lot of benefit by keeping even opposed minds inside.