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any reason to think google doesn't sell your data

by twerkable 8y ago

ohithereyou 8y ago
No, not particularly.
gruez 8y ago
google monetizes your data (targeting), but doesn't sell it to others.
- simion314 8y ago
  As we seen with the Google Plus bug that exposed user data even if Google would be a nice company even they can have a bug and expose your data, this makes me think that the best solution as a user is minimize the data that is collected about you and as a company to discard any data that you don't need and anonymize the data you have to keep and can be anonymized.
- StreamBright 8y ago
  Maybe not intentionally but problem is that often such data can be partially or fully de-anonymized using various statistical analysis techniques.
- onetimemanytime 8y ago
  #1 Reason: no one can monetize that data better than Google #2 They'd be helping their rivals with such data #3 Sharing might kill the golden goose (bad press etc) ...
  - cc439 8y ago
    Reason #1 sort of invalidates Reason #2. If Google is reasonably confident that they have an unmatchable (in the short term) advantage in interpreting and monetizing your data and can also generate additional revenue by selling it to firms that can't extract the same value from it, what incentive is stopping them? If competitors start to catch up in the areas jn which they have the clear advantage, they can simply shut off the faucet and the revenue generated by selling information jn the here and now helps fund initiatives to keep them ahead in the first place.
sct202 8y ago
Googlers seem to have leaky lips, so I figure if they do something shady one of them is going to go to the press.
- rjf72 8y ago
  I think the logical outcome is rather than Google avoiding ethically dubious, but highly profitable behavior, they will simply run a tighter ship of classification, isolation, and control. Companies and governments have become pretty decent at fingering over-eager leakers. And that's before you even get into who we're talking about. Google may rival even the NSA at this point in terms of the reach and breadth of their digital surveillance and data collection/categorization capacities, at least in the Western world. They're going to learn from and work against their leaks, not give up their 'ambitions'. Consider the NSA for an example of what's possible. They were doing what Snowden outed for years. And not a peep. Actually that's not true. There were plenty of 'peeps' but they were brutally silenced. See, for instance, Thomas Drake [1]. He tried to obey the law relying on whistleblower laws and an assumption of good will from other government organizations. He got destroyed and lost everything he had, and was unable to effectively get his message out on top of it all. That's another topic though... [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_A._Drake https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_A._Drake
nostrademons 8y ago
They make much more money using it for their own products. Data is Google's core competitive advantage; you don't sell your core competitive advantage to competitors.
rdl 8y ago
If it's just a voicemail box it doesn't have your location data to leak, although a DID onto a voicemail box (and maybe a SIP trunk if you really want it) is better.
Spooky23 8y ago
There’s a big difference in risk between Google selling your forwarding numbers and any random person finding a corrupt bail bondsman.

any reason to think google doesn't sell your data

ohithereyou 8y ago

No, not particularly.

gruez 8y ago

google monetizes your data (targeting), but doesn't sell it to others.

simion314 8y ago
As we seen with the Google Plus bug that exposed user data even if Google would be a nice company even they can have a bug and expose your data, this makes me think that the best solution as a user is minimize the data that is collected about you and as a company to discard any data that you don't need and anonymize the data you have to keep and can be anonymized.
StreamBright 8y ago
Maybe not intentionally but problem is that often such data can be partially or fully de-anonymized using various statistical analysis techniques.
onetimemanytime 8y ago
#1 Reason: no one can monetize that data better than Google #2 They'd be helping their rivals with such data #3 Sharing might kill the golden goose (bad press etc) ...
- cc439 8y ago
  Reason #1 sort of invalidates Reason #2. If Google is reasonably confident that they have an unmatchable (in the short term) advantage in interpreting and monetizing your data and can also generate additional revenue by selling it to firms that can't extract the same value from it, what incentive is stopping them? If competitors start to catch up in the areas jn which they have the clear advantage, they can simply shut off the faucet and the revenue generated by selling information jn the here and now helps fund initiatives to keep them ahead in the first place.

sct202 8y ago

Googlers seem to have leaky lips, so I figure if they do something shady one of them is going to go to the press.

rjf72 8y ago
I think the logical outcome is rather than Google avoiding ethically dubious, but highly profitable behavior, they will simply run a tighter ship of classification, isolation, and control. Companies and governments have become pretty decent at fingering over-eager leakers. And that's before you even get into who we're talking about. Google may rival even the NSA at this point in terms of the reach and breadth of their digital surveillance and data collection/categorization capacities, at least in the Western world. They're going to learn from and work against their leaks, not give up their 'ambitions'. Consider the NSA for an example of what's possible. They were doing what Snowden outed for years. And not a peep. Actually that's not true. There were plenty of 'peeps' but they were brutally silenced. See, for instance, Thomas Drake [1]. He tried to obey the law relying on whistleblower laws and an assumption of good will from other government organizations. He got destroyed and lost everything he had, and was unable to effectively get his message out on top of it all. That's another topic though... [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_A._Drake https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_A._Drake

nostrademons 8y ago

They make much more money using it for their own products. Data is Google's core competitive advantage; you don't sell your core competitive advantage to competitors.

rdl 8y ago

If it's just a voicemail box it doesn't have your location data to leak, although a DID onto a voicemail box (and maybe a SIP trunk if you really want it) is better.

Spooky23 8y ago

There’s a big difference in risk between Google selling your forwarding numbers and any random person finding a corrupt bail bondsman.