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Change title please and add "in the USA"

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danso 8y ago
The title doesn’t assert that this necessarily exists worldwide. edit: I mention this downstream, but it's worth correcting myself. The article prominently features a company named Zumigo, which provides mobile device location data in India as well as North America. So adding "in the U.S." to the (already altered) post title is not needed, especially since it could obfuscate the fact that these location companies do operate internationally. [0] https://zumigo.com/zumigo-introduces-breakthrough-mobile-location-technology-for-securing-and-enabling-payment-transactions-in-india/ https://zumigo.com/zumigo-introduces-breakthrough-mobile-loc...
- StreamBright 8y ago
  Yet mobile customers exist worldwide and I opened the article to see how they circumvent GDPR because I though it applies to Europeans too.
  - Beldin 8y ago
    As a European, having "bounty hunters" in the title implied that already. I was unaware of bounty hunters being aserious profession in any particular EU country. Then again, i don't know any EU country where an accused can bail themselves out of jail till the court case.
    - dragonwriter 8y ago
      > Then again, i don't know any EU country where an accused can bail themselves out of jail till the court case. While some other countries have cash deposits as part of bail, the US and the Phillipines appear to be the only countries with widespread commercial bail bonds system.
    - Xylakant 8y ago
      > Then again, i don't know any EU country where an accused can bail themselves out of jail till the court case. Germany (1), UK (See Assange) I’d assume that most European Countries have a similar system. However, it’s comparatively rare that bail is set in Germany. If I follow the US bail reform debait correctly I get the impression that jail before trial (Untersuchungshaft) is comparatively rare in Germany and requires specific reasons (2) while it’s comparatively normal in the US. Both might be contributing reasons why the bail system is not commercialized as in the US. Generally, the European Systems frown upon private law enforcement much more, that might be another reason for the nonexistence of bounty hunters. (1) §116 StPO https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stpo/__116.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stpo/__116.html (2) mostly Fluchtgefahr (Danger the accused may flee and leave the country, Verdunklungsgefahr (The accused might hide evidence, the danger of repeating the offense on violent offenses) §112 StPO https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stpo/__112.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stpo/__112.html
  - danso 8y ago
    The article asserts that the authors have verified that this practice currently exists when tested in the U.S. They do not make claims whether or not the companies may be lying about whether this framework may exist in other countries. It's interesting enough that this framework exists at all in the U.S., and it's relevant worldwide because these mobile companies and their customers exist worldwide. And not just the mobile companies, but the middlemen who provide this location data. Zumigo [0], one of the companies mentioned, has an office based in India and counts Indian banks among its clients for its "first-of-its-kind global location and identity platform". [0] https://zumigo.com/zumigo-introduces-breakthrough-mobile-location-technology-for-securing-and-enabling-payment-transactions-in-india/ https://zumigo.com/zumigo-introduces-breakthrough-mobile-loc...

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The title doesn’t assert that this necessarily exists worldwide. edit: I mention this downstream, but it's worth correcting myself. The article prominently features a company named Zumigo, which provides mobile device location data in India as well as North America. So adding "in the U.S." to the (already altered) post title is not needed, especially since it could obfuscate the fact that these location companies do operate internationally. [0] https://zumigo.com/zumigo-introduces-breakthrough-mobile-location-technology-for-securing-and-enabling-payment-transactions-in-india/ https://zumigo.com/zumigo-introduces-breakthrough-mobile-loc...

StreamBright 8y ago
Yet mobile customers exist worldwide and I opened the article to see how they circumvent GDPR because I though it applies to Europeans too.
- Beldin 8y ago
  As a European, having "bounty hunters" in the title implied that already. I was unaware of bounty hunters being aserious profession in any particular EU country. Then again, i don't know any EU country where an accused can bail themselves out of jail till the court case.
  - dragonwriter 8y ago
    > Then again, i don't know any EU country where an accused can bail themselves out of jail till the court case. While some other countries have cash deposits as part of bail, the US and the Phillipines appear to be the only countries with widespread commercial bail bonds system.
  - Xylakant 8y ago
    > Then again, i don't know any EU country where an accused can bail themselves out of jail till the court case. Germany (1), UK (See Assange) I’d assume that most European Countries have a similar system. However, it’s comparatively rare that bail is set in Germany. If I follow the US bail reform debait correctly I get the impression that jail before trial (Untersuchungshaft) is comparatively rare in Germany and requires specific reasons (2) while it’s comparatively normal in the US. Both might be contributing reasons why the bail system is not commercialized as in the US. Generally, the European Systems frown upon private law enforcement much more, that might be another reason for the nonexistence of bounty hunters. (1) §116 StPO https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stpo/__116.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stpo/__116.html (2) mostly Fluchtgefahr (Danger the accused may flee and leave the country, Verdunklungsgefahr (The accused might hide evidence, the danger of repeating the offense on violent offenses) §112 StPO https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stpo/__112.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stpo/__112.html
- danso 8y ago
  The article asserts that the authors have verified that this practice currently exists when tested in the U.S. They do not make claims whether or not the companies may be lying about whether this framework may exist in other countries. It's interesting enough that this framework exists at all in the U.S., and it's relevant worldwide because these mobile companies and their customers exist worldwide. And not just the mobile companies, but the middlemen who provide this location data. Zumigo [0], one of the companies mentioned, has an office based in India and counts Indian banks among its clients for its "first-of-its-kind global location and identity platform". [0] https://zumigo.com/zumigo-introduces-breakthrough-mobile-location-technology-for-securing-and-enabling-payment-transactions-in-india/ https://zumigo.com/zumigo-introduces-breakthrough-mobile-loc...