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I'd be really excited and willing to pay much more than the normal mobile app price to have this for my podcasts. Nothing pisses me off quite like the time was

I'd be really excited and willing to pay much more than the normal mobile app price to have this for my podcasts. Nothing pisses me off quite like the time waste that is podcast advertising. I skip them, but I was dreaming of a system like this...

dest 8y ago
Hi, author here. Thanks for your message. Please submit your podcasts on https://github.com/adblockradio/available-models https://github.com/adblockradio/available-models
- shittyadmin 8y ago
  Is the preference to bulk submit a single issue for a list of 6-10 podcasts or make individual issues for each?
  - dest 8y ago
    Please do it individually, thanks!
- driverdan 8y ago
  Are there instructions for training so we can contribute our own models? I've been wanting to play with ML and this seems like a fun way to do it. I read the write up and briefly looked at the repos and didn't see training instructions.
  - dest 8y ago
    Training is not open source (yet?). Among other questions, there is an issue with the copyrighted dataset that needs discussion.
ucaetano 8y ago
> Nothing pisses me off quite like the time waste that is podcast advertising. Why would you be more willing to pay to an app developer who will shut down the revenue stream for the content creator, than to listen to the ads and therefore fund the content creator?
- Operyl 8y ago
  The interesting thing about this is that the listener already isn't likely to be a converted customer from the ad anyway, and these podcast ads are recorded in place for forever (and as such are usually, in my experience, a fix cost and not variable like ad images). So, it doesn't seem likely that the creator is making "less" as you imply, at least not immediately.
- shittyadmin 8y ago
  Unlike with web advertising, you're still downloading the ad in this case, there's no way for the creator or the advertiser to tell that you blocked it after. I've never bought anything from an ad, never intentionally clicked one or visited a link from a podcast ad. There's truly no difference for me. Their revenue stream will remain intact, the kind of people who do that will keep doing that.
  - ucaetano 8y ago
    The revenue stream won't remain intact. This lowers the effectiveness of ads in the long run, reducing the price of ads and reducing the revenue for content producers. There's no way to spin this around: this reduces revenue for the creator of the free content you're consuming (and for all other creators). Everyone loses, except for the app maker, that makes money (if they are selling the app) by sucking it out of the content creators.
    - shittyadmin 8y ago
      I don't think so, the people who would use this are likely to be the same people who click the skip 30s button now and wouldn't buy things from ads anyways. The only reason this doesn't work out in browser based ones is because we block at the HTTP level and they pay per impression not per spot/per download like podcast advertising. But if you do happen to be right and the model falls apart, that's even better. I'll gladly chip a bit of money to creators who are worth it, but right now there's no easy and affordable way to do that. I actively want to see advertising based business models fail so we can see those systems evolve. I hate ads.
    - 8y ago

dest 8y ago

Hi, author here. Thanks for your message. Please submit your podcasts on https://github.com/adblockradio/available-models https://github.com/adblockradio/available-models

shittyadmin 8y ago
Is the preference to bulk submit a single issue for a list of 6-10 podcasts or make individual issues for each?
- dest 8y ago
  Please do it individually, thanks!
driverdan 8y ago
Are there instructions for training so we can contribute our own models? I've been wanting to play with ML and this seems like a fun way to do it. I read the write up and briefly looked at the repos and didn't see training instructions.
- dest 8y ago
  Training is not open source (yet?). Among other questions, there is an issue with the copyrighted dataset that needs discussion.

ucaetano 8y ago

> Nothing pisses me off quite like the time waste that is podcast advertising. Why would you be more willing to pay to an app developer who will shut down the revenue stream for the content creator, than to listen to the ads and therefore fund the content creator?

Operyl 8y ago
The interesting thing about this is that the listener already isn't likely to be a converted customer from the ad anyway, and these podcast ads are recorded in place for forever (and as such are usually, in my experience, a fix cost and not variable like ad images). So, it doesn't seem likely that the creator is making "less" as you imply, at least not immediately.
shittyadmin 8y ago
Unlike with web advertising, you're still downloading the ad in this case, there's no way for the creator or the advertiser to tell that you blocked it after. I've never bought anything from an ad, never intentionally clicked one or visited a link from a podcast ad. There's truly no difference for me. Their revenue stream will remain intact, the kind of people who do that will keep doing that.
- ucaetano 8y ago
  The revenue stream won't remain intact. This lowers the effectiveness of ads in the long run, reducing the price of ads and reducing the revenue for content producers. There's no way to spin this around: this reduces revenue for the creator of the free content you're consuming (and for all other creators). Everyone loses, except for the app maker, that makes money (if they are selling the app) by sucking it out of the content creators.
  - shittyadmin 8y ago
    I don't think so, the people who would use this are likely to be the same people who click the skip 30s button now and wouldn't buy things from ads anyways. The only reason this doesn't work out in browser based ones is because we block at the HTTP level and they pay per impression not per spot/per download like podcast advertising. But if you do happen to be right and the model falls apart, that's even better. I'll gladly chip a bit of money to creators who are worth it, but right now there's no easy and affordable way to do that. I actively want to see advertising based business models fail so we can see those systems evolve. I hate ads.
  - 8y ago