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I get that it's not just emergency breaking. My point though is that by 2022, all new cars are going to have both the sensors and the processing hardware needed

I get that it's not just emergency breaking. My point though is that by 2022, all new cars are going to have both the sensors and the processing hardware needed to do this. So most new cars will probably have this sort of functionality, even if they're not required to by this specific industry agreement. (Lots of cars already have this, including ones that aren't even that expensive, e.g. pretty much any Subaru.)

ams6110 8y ago
I hope I can keep my 1980s era cars running until I'm too old to drive.
nomel 8y ago
The requirements for hardware and processing to achieve emergency braking is drastically different than the 360 degree situational awareness and avoidance that Toyota is showing here. You can buy a 2017 Camry with emergency braking. It uses a laser and camera at the front and looks like a Camry. Compare the module to the Guardian sensor bank you see on the roof there. It's not for show. We will not see this sensor bank or these capabilities on every new car in 2022 and the article you posted doesn't remotely suggest that. I think you're underestimating what Toyota is doing here.
- Alex3917 8y ago
  How is that different than the active safety features on any other car? E.g. most cars already have an optional package to detect other cars in your blind spots, keep you centered in your lane, etc.
  - wtallis 8y ago
    Toyota demonstrated a test where the car determines that it cannot brake in time to avoid hitting an obstacle, so it decides to swerve around it instead. No combination of blind spot warnings and lane keeping assist can come anywhere close to performing such a feat. I'm also not aware of any car currently for sale that will accelerate to avoid being hit from behind. There are quite a few vehicles that have at least some of the sensor capability required for this kind of functionality, but the hard part is the software/AI, not the cameras and LIDAR.
    - gambiting 8y ago
      >> I'm also not aware of any car currently for sale that will accelerate to avoid being hit from behind Mercedes cars do that. They also preemptively play grey noise over the speakers if the collision is imminent, to protect your eardrums - that's something I don't think any other manufacturer is doing.

ams6110 8y ago

I hope I can keep my 1980s era cars running until I'm too old to drive.

nomel 8y ago

The requirements for hardware and processing to achieve emergency braking is drastically different than the 360 degree situational awareness and avoidance that Toyota is showing here. You can buy a 2017 Camry with emergency braking. It uses a laser and camera at the front and looks like a Camry. Compare the module to the Guardian sensor bank you see on the roof there. It's not for show. We will not see this sensor bank or these capabilities on every new car in 2022 and the article you posted doesn't remotely suggest that. I think you're underestimating what Toyota is doing here.

Alex3917 8y ago
How is that different than the active safety features on any other car? E.g. most cars already have an optional package to detect other cars in your blind spots, keep you centered in your lane, etc.
- wtallis 8y ago
  Toyota demonstrated a test where the car determines that it cannot brake in time to avoid hitting an obstacle, so it decides to swerve around it instead. No combination of blind spot warnings and lane keeping assist can come anywhere close to performing such a feat. I'm also not aware of any car currently for sale that will accelerate to avoid being hit from behind. There are quite a few vehicles that have at least some of the sensor capability required for this kind of functionality, but the hard part is the software/AI, not the cameras and LIDAR.
  - gambiting 8y ago
    >> I'm also not aware of any car currently for sale that will accelerate to avoid being hit from behind Mercedes cars do that. They also preemptively play grey noise over the speakers if the collision is imminent, to protect your eardrums - that's something I don't think any other manufacturer is doing.