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I assume you can install newer versions of Bash on macOS though? (But it certainly suggests to me that macOS isn't actually the easiest out-of-the-box solution

I assume you can install newer versions of Bash on macOS though? (But it certainly suggests to me that macOS isn't actually the easiest out-of-the-box solution if your workflow includes anything more than web browsing.)

a012 8y ago
Sure you can install newer version of bash via homebrew then update PATH in your shell profile.
shpx 8y ago
On macOS almost everyone uses the homebrew package manager https://brew.sh https://brew.sh. Installing bash is harder because you have to add the filepath of the new bash binary to /etc/shells and then set that filepath as your default shell, but brew install bash echo /usr/local/bin/bash | sudo tee -a /etc/shells chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash and if you're on macOS and still haven't heard of homebrew, you first need to install it with /usr/bin/ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"
- gnulinux 8y ago
  That command makes my eyes twitch. This sort of "download random stuff from internet, then pipe them to ruby/perl/python" madness should end, like right now. I'm assuming you're a reasonable person who knows what that commands does. Can you really not see how people can misuse commands like this to execute arbitrary code on people's computers, even experienced engineers if they carelessly copy-paste code like this. As a rule of thumb, to whoever reading this, please don't trust random strangers online and run their code. You never know. Always download code from trusted sources and check sha hashes. Piping anything else to ruby/perl/python is playing with fire.
  - nomel 8y ago
    Alternatively, follow the homebrew installation instructions: https://docs.brew.sh/Installation https://docs.brew.sh/Installation
  - shpx 8y ago
    That command curls a ruby file from the Homebrew repository on Github. If that Github repo (or Github) is compromised, then no matter how you installed homebrew, you are going to get hacked the next time you run `brew update`, which by default is run on every `brew install`. For me, the odds of that repo being compromised for long enough are outweighed by the convenience. This has been brought up on HN before and I'm not convinced.
    - aaaaaaaaaab 8y ago
      Would you notice if that URL was “raw.githubusercontent.someotherdomain.com” instead of “raw.githubusercontent.com”? I’m pretty sure at least 50% would merrily copy & paste it in their shell.
- h1d 8y ago
  You mean, every developer, not everyone.
- okdana 8y ago
  You probably don't need to update /etc/shells unless you really want to. chsh just won't let you switch to a shell that's not listed there without using sudo, which isn't a problem for most (generally single-user) Mac systems. You can also change your shell from the Users & Groups system preferences (in the advanced settings).

a012 8y ago

Sure you can install newer version of bash via homebrew then update PATH in your shell profile.

shpx 8y ago

On macOS almost everyone uses the homebrew package manager https://brew.sh https://brew.sh. Installing bash is harder because you have to add the filepath of the new bash binary to /etc/shells and then set that filepath as your default shell, but brew install bash echo /usr/local/bin/bash | sudo tee -a /etc/shells chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash and if you're on macOS and still haven't heard of homebrew, you first need to install it with /usr/bin/ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"

gnulinux 8y ago
That command makes my eyes twitch. This sort of "download random stuff from internet, then pipe them to ruby/perl/python" madness should end, like right now. I'm assuming you're a reasonable person who knows what that commands does. Can you really not see how people can misuse commands like this to execute arbitrary code on people's computers, even experienced engineers if they carelessly copy-paste code like this. As a rule of thumb, to whoever reading this, please don't trust random strangers online and run their code. You never know. Always download code from trusted sources and check sha hashes. Piping anything else to ruby/perl/python is playing with fire.
- nomel 8y ago
  Alternatively, follow the homebrew installation instructions: https://docs.brew.sh/Installation https://docs.brew.sh/Installation
- shpx 8y ago
  That command curls a ruby file from the Homebrew repository on Github. If that Github repo (or Github) is compromised, then no matter how you installed homebrew, you are going to get hacked the next time you run `brew update`, which by default is run on every `brew install`. For me, the odds of that repo being compromised for long enough are outweighed by the convenience. This has been brought up on HN before and I'm not convinced.
  - aaaaaaaaaab 8y ago
    Would you notice if that URL was “raw.githubusercontent.someotherdomain.com” instead of “raw.githubusercontent.com”? I’m pretty sure at least 50% would merrily copy & paste it in their shell.
h1d 8y ago
You mean, every developer, not everyone.
okdana 8y ago
You probably don't need to update /etc/shells unless you really want to. chsh just won't let you switch to a shell that's not listed there without using sudo, which isn't a problem for most (generally single-user) Mac systems. You can also change your shell from the Users & Groups system preferences (in the advanced settings).