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At around the time the "Walking around NYC" video, there was a Feminist Frequency video about the "Male Gaze." Basically, men looking at women harms them, and w

At around the time the "Walking around NYC" video, there was a Feminist Frequency video about the "Male Gaze." Basically, men looking at women harms them, and we should avert our eyes, like we're peasants in the presence of the Emperor's entourage in Imperial China. That’s an impressively warped hodgepodge, and as far as I can tell totally divorced from reality. The whole “Male Gaze” concept is drawn from cinematic gaze theory and the bowels of psychoanalysis, and it doesn’t remotely mean what you take it to mean. It also exists in the context of the feminine gaze, oppositional gaze and many others. It’s an overwrought construction, but that’s also a reflection of how old it is and its roots in even older ideas. There are some interesting points to be made, especially in cinematic analysis using gaze theory, but that’s about all. One thing is for sure though, it has nothing to do with averting your eyes or harming people by looking at them. Please don’t use what amounts to intellectual clickbait to springboard utterly milquetoast rants about “PC culture.” https://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/mediatheory/keywords/gaze/ https://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/mediatheory/keywords/gaze/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaze https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaze 1986 Paper introducing the term “male gaze” as a complement to existing gazes defined in cinematic criticism and psychoanalysis https://www.asu.edu/courses/fms504/total-readings/mulvey-visualpleasure.pdf https://www.asu.edu/courses/fms504/total-readings/mulvey-vis...

stcredzero 8y ago
That’s an impressively warped hodgepodge, and as far as I can tell totally divorced from reality. It's pretty much how the concept came across in the media and general public, and especially in that Feminist Frequency video. If more people from the left would call out such, "impressively warped hodgepodge" being wielded supposedly on behalf of "justice" then there would be far less destruction of the public discourse under the cover of "social justice." If more people from the left would call out such, "impressively warped hodgepodge," there would be less acrimony and more room and esteem for actual social justice.
- KirinDave 8y ago
  I watched that video and it was certainly not my takeaway.
- toufiqbarhamov 8y ago
  It's pretty much how the concept came across in the media and general public, and especially in that Feminist Frequency video. If more people from the left would call out such, "impressively warped hodgepodge" being wielded supposedly on behalf of "justice" then there would be far less destruction of the public discourse under the cover of "social justice." I’m yet to see any evidence of a source for this particular fiction other than you, and while I’m sure out of billions of people it’s trivially easy to find a handful of nuts taking almost any position, it’s dishonest to tar everyone else with that brush. Regardless, you didn’t present your “argument” as a matter of what some people wrongly believe, you simply shared your own misconceptions (if I’m being charitable) without a second thought. The intellectually honest response to being confronted with the reality of just how far off the mark you were is not to use weasel words like “pretty much” to double down on a false assertion.
  - stcredzero 8y ago
    while I’m sure out of billions of people it’s trivially easy to find a handful of nuts taking almost any position, it’s dishonest to tar everyone else with that brush. Not just a few out of billions, but throngs of people on social media, including acquaintances and friends of friends all willing to jump down your throat, as if asking questions or any nuance is an immediate sign of deplorability. The intellectually honest response to being confronted with the reality of just how far off the mark you were There is some kind of dramatic disconnect here. There was plenty of weird toxicity on the other side which you seem oblivious to. Its volume is quite a bit louder than your voice and your message, and it's very much the message many received.

stcredzero 8y ago

That’s an impressively warped hodgepodge, and as far as I can tell totally divorced from reality. It's pretty much how the concept came across in the media and general public, and especially in that Feminist Frequency video. If more people from the left would call out such, "impressively warped hodgepodge" being wielded supposedly on behalf of "justice" then there would be far less destruction of the public discourse under the cover of "social justice." If more people from the left would call out such, "impressively warped hodgepodge," there would be less acrimony and more room and esteem for actual social justice.

KirinDave 8y ago
I watched that video and it was certainly not my takeaway.
toufiqbarhamov 8y ago
It's pretty much how the concept came across in the media and general public, and especially in that Feminist Frequency video. If more people from the left would call out such, "impressively warped hodgepodge" being wielded supposedly on behalf of "justice" then there would be far less destruction of the public discourse under the cover of "social justice." I’m yet to see any evidence of a source for this particular fiction other than you, and while I’m sure out of billions of people it’s trivially easy to find a handful of nuts taking almost any position, it’s dishonest to tar everyone else with that brush. Regardless, you didn’t present your “argument” as a matter of what some people wrongly believe, you simply shared your own misconceptions (if I’m being charitable) without a second thought. The intellectually honest response to being confronted with the reality of just how far off the mark you were is not to use weasel words like “pretty much” to double down on a false assertion.
- stcredzero 8y ago
  while I’m sure out of billions of people it’s trivially easy to find a handful of nuts taking almost any position, it’s dishonest to tar everyone else with that brush. Not just a few out of billions, but throngs of people on social media, including acquaintances and friends of friends all willing to jump down your throat, as if asking questions or any nuance is an immediate sign of deplorability. The intellectually honest response to being confronted with the reality of just how far off the mark you were There is some kind of dramatic disconnect here. There was plenty of weird toxicity on the other side which you seem oblivious to. Its volume is quite a bit louder than your voice and your message, and it's very much the message many received.