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100% agreed. By far the stupidest platform of the left. If illegals hear this, then more and more of them will come to California from other countries and espec

100% agreed. By far the stupidest platform of the left. If illegals hear this, then more and more of them will come to California from other countries and especially other states. We pay $10k a year per illegal kid already which has deeply burdened our schools. We currently already pay for illegal kids healthcare completely because they are covered under medi-cal and we have emergency health care for those who urgently need it covered. We also fund clinics for illegals. I think that is more than fair and I do agree with this, but the new proposals go way too far. That money could be spent on infrastructure, climate change, less of a tax burden, elimination of regressive taxes, more subsidized housing etc. The most disgusting thing about this is my cousin is disabled and I went with his family to an informational hearing and almost every disabled person there was borderline homeless. Living in their cars, sharing 1 room with 3 people etc. because the state only gives $700 a month if you were born disabled. All the low income houses are taken, so it’s make it on your own. I did more digging and found organizations in SF that help illegals get free housing and they do this if their kids are citizens. Since citizen kids are a priority, organizations help their families get a house and they stay there for 18 years. My disabled cousin whose parents have likely paid over a million in taxes gets left out in the cold while these people get this. He at least has family support, what about all the disabled and poor seniors who have no voice, no platform, no ability to fight for themselves. This is the one topic where I lose nuance and my blood boils. I greatly disagree with illegal immigration and especially providing benefits over the current medical for emergencies and for kids under 18.

nikdaheratik 8y ago
There's an awful lot of anec-data and not much actual fact here. The people who deal with the problems mostly think this plan is a good idea. Perhaps you should think about why that is rather than bringing your own personal issues and biases into this discussion.
- rhegart 8y ago
  Which part is not a fact? That it costs $10k per illegal kid in California schools which are ranked 49th in the country? Down from near the top 20 years ago? That our schools are overflowing and getting worse in Los Angeles County, the epicenter of the problems, the schools are so bad that everyone is moving to charters. That illegal kids are covered by medi-cal until they come of age? That we fund health clinics? That if you have a citizen baby, organizations aid you to get low income housing which then you use for the entire family? Please tell me a non fact into any of this. Please learn to read and critically think. Anecdotes in conjunction with facts help make compelling arguments. You have brought neither. “The people who deal with the problems think this plan is a good idea”. This statement is downright moronic. Obviously the leftists who created this policy think it’s a good idea...those who disagree and create other policies such as harsher border security also think their plan is a good idea. Does that mean you will concede your critical thinking to those you disagree with?
  - nikdaheratik 8y ago
    You also talked about your cousin. About some made up homeless people living in cars that you gave no reference for. You then cherry picked a few cost numbers on costs for schools with no source or context for those numbers. Are those costs out of line with other schools in the state? You don't say. Also, you completely ignored the fact that public school attendence is compulsory, and that children literally have no say in where their parents choose to take them. So you're basically advocating that immigrants come here and break the law to save a hypothetical amount of tax money you claim CA can't afford. All to basically punish the children of immigrants and refugees that have no say or control over any of this. Also, what's the alternative? A bunch of sick kids getting no health care and getting their peers sick, some of whom are undoubtedly Americans. Your points don't make any sense and you have to make up alot of nonsense to try and make it look sensible. But clearly people who disagree with you are the ones who have a lack in "critical thinking". SMH.

nikdaheratik 8y ago

There's an awful lot of anec-data and not much actual fact here. The people who deal with the problems mostly think this plan is a good idea. Perhaps you should think about why that is rather than bringing your own personal issues and biases into this discussion.

rhegart 8y ago
Which part is not a fact? That it costs $10k per illegal kid in California schools which are ranked 49th in the country? Down from near the top 20 years ago? That our schools are overflowing and getting worse in Los Angeles County, the epicenter of the problems, the schools are so bad that everyone is moving to charters. That illegal kids are covered by medi-cal until they come of age? That we fund health clinics? That if you have a citizen baby, organizations aid you to get low income housing which then you use for the entire family? Please tell me a non fact into any of this. Please learn to read and critically think. Anecdotes in conjunction with facts help make compelling arguments. You have brought neither. “The people who deal with the problems think this plan is a good idea”. This statement is downright moronic. Obviously the leftists who created this policy think it’s a good idea...those who disagree and create other policies such as harsher border security also think their plan is a good idea. Does that mean you will concede your critical thinking to those you disagree with?
- nikdaheratik 8y ago
  You also talked about your cousin. About some made up homeless people living in cars that you gave no reference for. You then cherry picked a few cost numbers on costs for schools with no source or context for those numbers. Are those costs out of line with other schools in the state? You don't say. Also, you completely ignored the fact that public school attendence is compulsory, and that children literally have no say in where their parents choose to take them. So you're basically advocating that immigrants come here and break the law to save a hypothetical amount of tax money you claim CA can't afford. All to basically punish the children of immigrants and refugees that have no say or control over any of this. Also, what's the alternative? A bunch of sick kids getting no health care and getting their peers sick, some of whom are undoubtedly Americans. Your points don't make any sense and you have to make up alot of nonsense to try and make it look sensible. But clearly people who disagree with you are the ones who have a lack in "critical thinking". SMH.