careful. so are you saying that a $5MM procedure to save a lazy ne'er do well homeless person from some exotic condition, whereupon their release from the hosp

careful. so are you saying that a $5MM procedure to save a lazy ne'er do well homeless person from some exotic condition, whereupon their release from the hospital will go back to being homeless and is likely to die of some "ordinary" disease, is a basic human right? where is the line between what level of health care is a right and what level is not? i'll note there is no such thing as a life-saving procedure. even trauma interventions are just deferral of death. don't get me wrong, i don't have an answer myself. i'm just trying to understand your position in better detail. we are all here due to the compassion of many, many others, most of which are unrecognized. but a right? how can it be a right when health care as we know it today didn't even exist 100 years ago? and healthcare isn't free. someone pays for it, and as we are divided into nations, it's the citizens of a given nation that have done the paying. i do believe illegal immigrants should get better treatment, possibly including healthcare. After all, they are (contrary to those who need someone to blame for their woes) doing us a desired service. so yeah, there's a grey area on healthcare. but, a right?