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Until we have the ability to make iOS apps on-device, this will never be an option for a lot of folks it could be very useful for. I also repeatedly say that I

Until we have the ability to make iOS apps on-device, this will never be an option for a lot of folks it could be very useful for. I also repeatedly say that I’m waiting the day when the iPad Pro actually gets some Pro software - where is Logic ‘Pro’, my daily driver that keeps me locked to MacOS as much as xCode does. xCode and Logic Pro are the reasons I have a Mac at all.

dankoss 8y ago
Agreed, though have you seen Garageband on iOS lately? It has inherited quite a few features from Logic like the drummer, more customizable plugins / inserts, etc. Also, Cubasis and Auria are pretty powerful. Still not as powerful as Logic proper.
- lintroller 8y ago
  Often, it isn't even just the "desktop" application itself but the associated workflow plugins that have to run on the iOS as well. For a lot of modern electronic music producers, tools like Serum are a must.
- kingnight 8y ago
  GarageBand has a crazy/arbitrary limit on length of like 640 bars or 30 mins? I would have loved to use it to make a long mix of multiple tracks but that simple tasks butted up against that limit and I wasted so much time until I had to google this weird thing where it didn’t lengthen any further... wish audacity existed on the iPad.
- lostgame 8y ago
  Yes...but it still lacks basic automation beyond Volume...is stuck to one BPM through the track and one time signature...even on an iPad Pro there's still only a 3-channel EQ...we don't have notation mode (which would be perfect for the Apple Pencil in Portrait!)...we don't have a sample/waveform editor or flex time/pitch...it's barely usable for me as a sketchpad, although it has improved drastically.
baddox 8y ago
It would obviously be a huge proof of concept if you could make native apps on the iPad Pro, but I don't see why it's a crucial requirement for most developers to switch to an iPad Pro, since it would only affect iOS app developers. For instance, I'd much rather have great ways to develop web applications on an iPad Pro.
- lostgame 8y ago
  Is it too much to ask for both? Web development is mainly hampered for me by the lack of a basic shared file system - Coda, however, is phenomenal. I've been able to do a lot on the go with Coda alone. I'm looking forward to the release of the full Photoshop on the iPad Pro - once we get that, Logic, and some semblance of Xcode I can start taking a serious look at it again.
graeme 8y ago
Depending on what you use logic for, check out ferrite on ipad. If you do music production, hennythabizness has some good videos on youtube about how me makes all his music on ipad. Jonathan Morrison did a couple of great features on him: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dItCj676GmA https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dItCj676GmA This second link is a more in depth video on how henny and ken lewis made a beat. I really want the song they made.... https://youtu.be/ZxvliLODkxI https://youtu.be/ZxvliLODkxI
sytse 8y ago
I'm thinking of making sure you can make iOS apps on an iPad with GitLab.com I've put it down as a goal for Feb to April https://about.gitlab.com/company/okrs/fy20-q1/#ceo-popular-next-generation-product-triple-secure-value-3-stages-multiple-teams-grown-use-of-stages-smau-iphone-app-on-ipad https://about.gitlab.com/company/okrs/fy20-q1/#ceo-popular-n... What do people think? Is it acceptable to have to program in a browser with a Web IDE?
- Gys 8y ago
  I assume you mean compiling remotely ? The problem to does not seem the coding itself (i think that is what you mean) but instead the running in a simulator or on device. To check if the code works and for debugging
  - sytse 8y ago
    I did mean compiling remotely. We're thinking of having shared MacOS runners on GitLab.com for this. I didn't realize the problem of also needed a simulator. Let me think about this.
    - sytse 8y ago
      I've made an issue https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues with additional thoughts.
      - dsumenkovic 8y ago
        Is the issue number 56210? Here's the full link https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/56210 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/56210
        sytse 8y ago
        Yes, thank you for posting.
steve_taylor 8y ago
> Until we have the ability to make iOS apps on-device, this will never be an option for a lot of folks it could be very useful for. Codea is great for making games using just an iPad, using Lua. (However, you'll need Xcode on a Mac to submit your app to the App Store.) https://itunes.apple.com/app/id439571171?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/app/id439571171?mt=8

dankoss 8y ago

Agreed, though have you seen Garageband on iOS lately? It has inherited quite a few features from Logic like the drummer, more customizable plugins / inserts, etc. Also, Cubasis and Auria are pretty powerful. Still not as powerful as Logic proper.

lintroller 8y ago
Often, it isn't even just the "desktop" application itself but the associated workflow plugins that have to run on the iOS as well. For a lot of modern electronic music producers, tools like Serum are a must.
kingnight 8y ago
GarageBand has a crazy/arbitrary limit on length of like 640 bars or 30 mins? I would have loved to use it to make a long mix of multiple tracks but that simple tasks butted up against that limit and I wasted so much time until I had to google this weird thing where it didn’t lengthen any further... wish audacity existed on the iPad.
lostgame 8y ago
Yes...but it still lacks basic automation beyond Volume...is stuck to one BPM through the track and one time signature...even on an iPad Pro there's still only a 3-channel EQ...we don't have notation mode (which would be perfect for the Apple Pencil in Portrait!)...we don't have a sample/waveform editor or flex time/pitch...it's barely usable for me as a sketchpad, although it has improved drastically.

baddox 8y ago

It would obviously be a huge proof of concept if you could make native apps on the iPad Pro, but I don't see why it's a crucial requirement for most developers to switch to an iPad Pro, since it would only affect iOS app developers. For instance, I'd much rather have great ways to develop web applications on an iPad Pro.

lostgame 8y ago
Is it too much to ask for both? Web development is mainly hampered for me by the lack of a basic shared file system - Coda, however, is phenomenal. I've been able to do a lot on the go with Coda alone. I'm looking forward to the release of the full Photoshop on the iPad Pro - once we get that, Logic, and some semblance of Xcode I can start taking a serious look at it again.

graeme 8y ago

Depending on what you use logic for, check out ferrite on ipad. If you do music production, hennythabizness has some good videos on youtube about how me makes all his music on ipad. Jonathan Morrison did a couple of great features on him: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dItCj676GmA https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dItCj676GmA This second link is a more in depth video on how henny and ken lewis made a beat. I really want the song they made.... https://youtu.be/ZxvliLODkxI https://youtu.be/ZxvliLODkxI

sytse 8y ago

I'm thinking of making sure you can make iOS apps on an iPad with GitLab.com I've put it down as a goal for Feb to April https://about.gitlab.com/company/okrs/fy20-q1/#ceo-popular-next-generation-product-triple-secure-value-3-stages-multiple-teams-grown-use-of-stages-smau-iphone-app-on-ipad https://about.gitlab.com/company/okrs/fy20-q1/#ceo-popular-n... What do people think? Is it acceptable to have to program in a browser with a Web IDE?

Gys 8y ago
I assume you mean compiling remotely ? The problem to does not seem the coding itself (i think that is what you mean) but instead the running in a simulator or on device. To check if the code works and for debugging
- sytse 8y ago
  I did mean compiling remotely. We're thinking of having shared MacOS runners on GitLab.com for this. I didn't realize the problem of also needed a simulator. Let me think about this.
  - sytse 8y ago
    I've made an issue https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues with additional thoughts.
    - dsumenkovic 8y ago
      Is the issue number 56210? Here's the full link https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/56210 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/56210
      - sytse 8y ago
        Yes, thank you for posting.

steve_taylor 8y ago

> Until we have the ability to make iOS apps on-device, this will never be an option for a lot of folks it could be very useful for. Codea is great for making games using just an iPad, using Lua. (However, you'll need Xcode on a Mac to submit your app to the App Store.) https://itunes.apple.com/app/id439571171?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/app/id439571171?mt=8