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> If you've got no use for RTX and tensor cores, those cards are very similar. But, again, they are not. The 2060 handily outperforms the 1070 Ti for $50 to $1

by TomVDB 8y ago

> If you've got no use for RTX and tensor cores, those cards are very similar. But, again, they are not. The 2060 handily outperforms the 1070 Ti for $50 to $100 less. And that's all for existing games that don't use RTX or DLSS or whatever, so feel free to ignore those additional freebies. > I'm pointing out that it has slowed. Yes. And I think you better get used to that. It's a consequence of the fact that we are near the end of Moore's law. > At least I'm thankful to Nvidia gods for making the higher performance card at all available, I guess... In this case, we're looking at more performance for less dollars, both compared to Nvidia's previous product and compared to AMD's current product. Your only issue is the name and marketing positioning. I think that's a pretty shallow argument, TBH.

nickflood 8y ago
> The 2060 handily outperforms the 1070 Ti That's not what I'm seeing in the benchmarks. > I think you better get used to that. This may be your worldview, but other people are free to think for themselves and I choose to hold it to a higher standard. This is not an attack on your beliefs, though, I'm not telling you to adopt my point of view. We saw with AMD that it was indeed not the Moore's law that led to Intel releasing the same flavor of quad-core desktop chip over and over. And I think, we'll see it again, so I'm keeping the pressure on while this happens. > Your only issue is the name and marketing positioning. That is not, in my opinion, correct.
- TomVDB 8y ago
  > That's not what I'm seeing in the benchmarks. Change “outperforms” with “equal performance” and my argument doesn’t change due to the lower price. In the recent years, we have seen a number of cases where Nvidia set the perf/$ higher and AMD was forced to follow. This case is no different, with AMD expected to announce lower Vega 56 prices today. That’s the exact opposite of what happened with AMD and Intel wrt CPUs.

by TomVDB 8y ago

nickflood 8y ago

> The 2060 handily outperforms the 1070 Ti That's not what I'm seeing in the benchmarks. > I think you better get used to that. This may be your worldview, but other people are free to think for themselves and I choose to hold it to a higher standard. This is not an attack on your beliefs, though, I'm not telling you to adopt my point of view. We saw with AMD that it was indeed not the Moore's law that led to Intel releasing the same flavor of quad-core desktop chip over and over. And I think, we'll see it again, so I'm keeping the pressure on while this happens. > Your only issue is the name and marketing positioning. That is not, in my opinion, correct.

TomVDB 8y ago
> That's not what I'm seeing in the benchmarks. Change “outperforms” with “equal performance” and my argument doesn’t change due to the lower price. In the recent years, we have seen a number of cases where Nvidia set the perf/$ higher and AMD was forced to follow. This case is no different, with AMD expected to announce lower Vega 56 prices today. That’s the exact opposite of what happened with AMD and Intel wrt CPUs.