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to be fair, I thought the Vega cards were only more expensive because crypto-miners found out they worked better for mining than the nvidia cards? Unless I am

to be fair, I thought the Vega cards were only more expensive because crypto-miners found out they worked better for mining than the nvidia cards? Unless I am mistaken, in which case, ignore this.

onli 8y ago
That's partly right. Vega was especially expensive during the last crypto bubble, but that is over and the Vega 56 is still rarely under $400.
- elipsey 8y ago
  Yes, Launch MSRPs were $400 and $500 for vega 56 and 64 respectively, and it seems like those cards are just now beginning to sell for around those prices.* I suppose Nvidia and partners have no reason to compete with their last-gen inventory backlog at a similar price. However, it's nice to see some downward pricing pressure to the high-mid-range. I don't care all that much about gaming, but the chip famine made AMD Vega hardware (and everything else of course) a terrible value, which is sad because it seemed like nice hardware for compute. I also really like how recent AMD hardware Just Works on linux. Who'd have thunk it? I have been buying used rx480/70 on ebay for $80-100, which is great if you don't mind flashing an original bios back on to a mining card (is the rom I downloaded from that Albanian carding forum really the right one? Grits teeth and hits enter). It would also be great though to just be able to buy a card the normal way, for a fair price. Anyway, it's hard to imagine AMD doing the same trick they did with the rx590 to vega, like where they release the Vega Turbo OC'd flavor-blasted Thermopile edition. It's already too hot. So maybe they will just have to finally lower the price to less than, or equal to, the price of RTX2060. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Radeon_RX_Vega_Series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processin...
  - holtalanm 8y ago
    yeah. I really want to get a new AMD card (vega 56), but I just can't justify spending $400 to get one. especially when the 1070 Ti beats it in performance and costs $50 less.
gh02t 8y ago
Makes me wonder if it's a deliberate strategy. Cryptocurrencies raised the prices of GPUs across the board due to demand, but maybe Nvidia has decided that the wider market has become accustomed to higher base prices and will still bear it, even with the added demand from miners dying off. I imagine they are probably reluctant to cut margins when their main competitor in this market segment is similarly priced.

to be fair, I thought the Vega cards were only more expensive because crypto-miners found out they worked better for mining than the nvidia cards? Unless I am mistaken, in which case, ignore this.

onli 8y ago

That's partly right. Vega was especially expensive during the last crypto bubble, but that is over and the Vega 56 is still rarely under $400.

elipsey 8y ago
Yes, Launch MSRPs were $400 and $500 for vega 56 and 64 respectively, and it seems like those cards are just now beginning to sell for around those prices.* I suppose Nvidia and partners have no reason to compete with their last-gen inventory backlog at a similar price. However, it's nice to see some downward pricing pressure to the high-mid-range. I don't care all that much about gaming, but the chip famine made AMD Vega hardware (and everything else of course) a terrible value, which is sad because it seemed like nice hardware for compute. I also really like how recent AMD hardware Just Works on linux. Who'd have thunk it? I have been buying used rx480/70 on ebay for $80-100, which is great if you don't mind flashing an original bios back on to a mining card (is the rom I downloaded from that Albanian carding forum really the right one? Grits teeth and hits enter). It would also be great though to just be able to buy a card the normal way, for a fair price. Anyway, it's hard to imagine AMD doing the same trick they did with the rx590 to vega, like where they release the Vega Turbo OC'd flavor-blasted Thermopile edition. It's already too hot. So maybe they will just have to finally lower the price to less than, or equal to, the price of RTX2060. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Radeon_RX_Vega_Series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processin...
- holtalanm 8y ago
  yeah. I really want to get a new AMD card (vega 56), but I just can't justify spending $400 to get one. especially when the 1070 Ti beats it in performance and costs $50 less.

gh02t 8y ago

Makes me wonder if it's a deliberate strategy. Cryptocurrencies raised the prices of GPUs across the board due to demand, but maybe Nvidia has decided that the wider market has become accustomed to higher base prices and will still bear it, even with the added demand from miners dying off. I imagine they are probably reluctant to cut margins when their main competitor in this market segment is similarly priced.